[At-Large] Private v. Public.

[Carlton Samuels]

Yessir. Was just discussing it on the monthly ALAC Call.  Here's what I
posted on the ALAC Adobe Connect chat:

"Emily is a sensible person and she knows when 'she's getting
tossed'!....... at Emily: I attended a lot of the public WHOIS RT and my views
were even directly solicited. That Final Report was a monumental
achievement in adept diplomacy and some very incisive work by Emily herself"

FWIW, the ALAC endorsed the entire WHOIS Final Report and urged its
adoption.  The Statement went a wee bit further in recommending some next
steps.

-Carlton




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On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:

> Emily Taylor <http://news.dot-nxt.com/2013/01/16/deja-whois> "A dangerous
> sense of déjà vu" Thoughts from the review team chair.
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Carlton Samuels <
> carlton.samuels at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Long before the WHOIS Final Report was published, the ALAC is on record
> for
> > this - privacy/proxy - position.
> > -Carlton
> >
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> > Carlton A Samuels
> > Mobile: 876-818-1799
> > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
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> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:19 AM, Holly Raiche <h.raiche at internode.on.net
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > This is pretty much where the Whois Final Report was heading.  Work out
> > > who can use a privacy/proxy server (the difference between individuals
> > and
> > > organisations was discussed), but then ensure access to all information
> > to
> > > LEAs - for legitimate LEA reasons.  And yes - again - once privacy
> > > protections are there (whatever they are called) insist on accuracy.
> > >
> > > Holly
> > >
> > > > Personally, I like the middle ground of CIRA, the Canadian ccTLD that
> > has
> > > > different disclosure policies for individials and organizations. It
> > > allows
> > > > individual registrants to hide criticlal parts of WHOIS for casual
> > > lookups,
> > > > but does not offer that facility to organizations. In doing so, it
> > still
> > > > demands accurate WHOIS data.
> > > On 22/01/2013, at 7:58 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> > >
> > > > Agreed with about everything Bill said.
> > > >
> > > >> A domain name is not a requirement to speak anonymously on the
> > internet.
> > > >
> > > > This is the fatally flawed assumption in most privacy arguments,
> > > including
> > > > Karl's.
> > > >
> > > > ICANN long ago made the policy decision that Internet domains are
> > > property,
> > > > not identity. As such they can (and should) be treated with the same
> > > > requirements of ownership disclosure as other forms of intellectual
> > > > property, which by and large are publicly searchable. Functionally
> (if
> > > not
> > > > technically), WHOIS shouldn't have disclosure policies much different
> > > from
> > > > TESS <
> http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4005:890zev.1.1
> > >.
> > > >
> > > > Such a mechanism may lead one to proxies, but those proxies must
> > > themselves
> > > > provide accurate information that can ultimately, as required,
> > ultimately
> > > > give a trusted path back to the source.
> > > >
> > > > Personally, I like the middle ground of CIRA, the Canadian ccTLD that
> > has
> > > > different disclosure policies for individials and organizations. It
> > > allows
> > > > individual registrants to hide criticlal parts of WHOIS for casual
> > > lookups,
> > > > but does not offer that facility to organizations. In doing so, it
> > still
> > > > demands accurate WHOIS data.
> > > >
> > > > - Evan
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