[At-Large] Private v. Public.

Adam Peake ajp at glocom.ac.jp
Tue Jan 22 15:49:55 UTC 2013


Emily Taylor <http://news.dot-nxt.com/2013/01/16/deja-whois> "A dangerous
sense of déjà vu" Thoughts from the review team chair.

Adam


On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Long before the WHOIS Final Report was published, the ALAC is on record for
> this - privacy/proxy - position.
> -Carlton
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> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:19 AM, Holly Raiche <h.raiche at internode.on.net
> >wrote:
>
> > This is pretty much where the Whois Final Report was heading.  Work out
> > who can use a privacy/proxy server (the difference between individuals
> and
> > organisations was discussed), but then ensure access to all information
> to
> > LEAs - for legitimate LEA reasons.  And yes - again - once privacy
> > protections are there (whatever they are called) insist on accuracy.
> >
> > Holly
> >
> > > Personally, I like the middle ground of CIRA, the Canadian ccTLD that
> has
> > > different disclosure policies for individials and organizations. It
> > allows
> > > individual registrants to hide criticlal parts of WHOIS for casual
> > lookups,
> > > but does not offer that facility to organizations. In doing so, it
> still
> > > demands accurate WHOIS data.
> > On 22/01/2013, at 7:58 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> >
> > > Agreed with about everything Bill said.
> > >
> > >> A domain name is not a requirement to speak anonymously on the
> internet.
> > >
> > > This is the fatally flawed assumption in most privacy arguments,
> > including
> > > Karl's.
> > >
> > > ICANN long ago made the policy decision that Internet domains are
> > property,
> > > not identity. As such they can (and should) be treated with the same
> > > requirements of ownership disclosure as other forms of intellectual
> > > property, which by and large are publicly searchable. Functionally (if
> > not
> > > technically), WHOIS shouldn't have disclosure policies much different
> > from
> > > TESS <http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4005:890zev.1.1
> >.
> > >
> > > Such a mechanism may lead one to proxies, but those proxies must
> > themselves
> > > provide accurate information that can ultimately, as required,
> ultimately
> > > give a trusted path back to the source.
> > >
> > > Personally, I like the middle ground of CIRA, the Canadian ccTLD that
> has
> > > different disclosure policies for individials and organizations. It
> > allows
> > > individual registrants to hide criticlal parts of WHOIS for casual
> > lookups,
> > > but does not offer that facility to organizations. In doing so, it
> still
> > > demands accurate WHOIS data.
> > >
> > > - Evan
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