[At-Large] R: China is going to divide the DNS

Sun Jul 1 02:27:38 UTC 2012

Dear All,

To be precise the RFP was submitted by:-

   - Yuping Diao
   - Guangdong Commercial College
   - China Telecom
   - Ming Liao
   - China Mobile

To see the exact RFP, visit:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aip-dns-00

Kind Regards,
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>wrote:

> Dear Roberto,
>
> proposals for alternate/split roots are commonplace. However, it is the
> first time that an apparently State-sponsored organization is proposing
> such a draft.
> The general mood in IETF is that this proposal has very little chance of
> passing the Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG). The question
> then lies into "why was this proposed", and my personal take on this,
> already shared on ISOC discussion lists, is that the author is looking
> at ticking the box: "Tried submitting changes through IETF. Did not
> work. Replace IETF with another organization."
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Olivier
>
>
> On 30/06/2012 18:59, Roberto Gaetano wrote :
> > Sorry for the late reply, I have a new computer and need to set my
> filters
> > better, as this message ended up in the spam folder.
> > I am not a technical guru, so I am asking the question to the ones who
> know.
> > Isn't this what China is already doing for the IDNs under .cn? The only
> > difference is that they are now trying to give an "official" status to
> the
> > solution, methinks. If I get it correctly, now in China you can use
> > [idn].[idn] because the ISPs point to a different tree, while from
> outside
> > China you need to use [idn].[idn].cn. Do I get it right?
> > Moreover, what are the chances that this draft gets any support in the
> IETF?
> > Personally, I have serious doubts. But it would be good to be kept
> informed
> > of the developments.
> > Cheers,
> > Roberto
> >
> >
> > -----Messaggio originale-----
> > Da: at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > [mailto:at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di Lutz
> > Donnerhacke
> > Inviato: martedì 19 giugno 2012 14:57
> > A: At-Large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > Oggetto: [At-Large] China is going to divide the DNS
> >
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aip-dns
> >
> > Each ISP - large enough to obtain a TLD from IANA for this purpose -
> should
> > be allowed to create it's own DNS hierachy.
> >
> > This Chinese proposal is justified by the fact that the (U.S.) centrally
> > managed name space represents a risk for the stable operation of the
> > Internet. Following this draft different name spaces are spanned, each of
> > them operated autonomously. Which domain names are allowed, added, or
> > removed; how a domain name is resolved, is soley in the hand of the
> > operators.
> >
> > Using the typical definition, that "the Internet is the transitive
> closure
> > of all systems communicating bidirectional via Internet Protocol, which
> > contains the DNS root servers", the Internet is splitted by this
> proposal.
> >
> > There is no reason to believe the rumours, that this proposal is a direct
> > consequence of the ICANN desaster with new gTLDs.
> >
> > On the other hand, DNSSEC root keys at the end user systems define which
> > root have to be used in the first place. This can be used to establish
> and
> > protect the new name spaces.
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> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
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