[At-Large] Protection of IOC/Red Cross Names at Top Level

Thu Feb 2 23:15:18 UTC 2012

Evan
On 2 Feb 2012, at 17:07, Evan Leibovitch wrote:

> Hi Michele,
> 
> Personally I'd prefer *no* exceptions, confident that conventional TLD
> objection procedures would prevent any red-cross-related application to
> come from anyone but the IFRC in Geneva or its authorized agents. I'd even
> support the ALAC public-interest objection process used for this, and would
> have no hesitation initiation the objection process myself in such a case.

Similar to my view so :)

> 
> But the GAC seems hell-bent on having some kind of exception(s).

Agreed. 

> 
> IIRC, the Red Cross is considered an exceptional institution. I was told by
> people I trust that there was no concept of a non-profit corporation in
> Japan before the Red Cross tried to establish, and there was a specific
> vote in the Diet to allow it. So such exceptionalism is not without
> precedent.

Interesting

> 
> (And happy birthday, BTW!)

Thanks :)

Not for another 45 minutes here!

> 
> - Evan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2 February 2012 10:37, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight <
> michele at blacknight.ie> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 2 Feb 2012, at 14:30, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>> 
>>> Should ALAC have a stance on the TLD reservation of the Red Cross and
>>> Olympic terms?
>>> 
>>> Personally, I think they should be handled differently. I have no problem
>>> with the Red [Cross|Crescent|Diamond] names (and their multilingual and
>> IDN
>>> equivalents) being reserved because these are groups that do charitable
>>> work and collect funds for relief of famines, natural disasters and other
>>> emergencies.
>>> 
>>> OTOH, The international olympic movement, while non-profit, does not
>>> collect emergency funds in the same way as the Red Cross. Furthermore, I
>>> have seen olympic committees in various countries aggressively shut down
>>> innocent users (like family-run Greek restaurants using "Olympic" in
>> their
>>> name) that are neither competing nor confusing with the athletic
>>> organization.
>>> 
>>> (How soon before they go after the largest Greek airline?)
>>> 
>>> In any case, my own preference is to support reservation of the Red Cross
>>> names but oppose similar protection offered to Olympic ones (and allow
>>> contentious applications to be objected to in the appropriate way as
>>> required).
>> 
>> Evan
>> 
>> How do you make a policy statement that gives one NGO "special status"
>> without giving it to others?
>> 
>> I like your reasoning - just wondering how it could be worded to be narrow
>> enough ..
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Michele in a personal capacity (if I have one .. )
>> 
>> 
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