[At-Large] IPv4 or what is left of it...

Franck Martin franck.martin at gmail.com
Sat Jun 18 22:48:40 UTC 2011


Yes they were consuming /8 more than anyone else... in fact based on IANA allocation rules, I heard, they could have exhhausted the pool one year in advance, but choose not to, to avoid panic.

----- Original Message -----
From: "McTim" <dogwallah at gmail.com>
To: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Sent: Sunday, 19 June, 2011 10:19:09 AM
Subject: Re: [At-Large] IPv4 or what is left of it...

Hi,
They are in "careful mode" due to their community's choice.

While it might have been useful for all the regions to run out at roughly
the same time, i doubt that more than one region would have reached
consensus on such a scheme. It certainly would not have been palatable to
many in my region.

However, if you look at "who got what" just before the last 5 were
allocated, apnic did get 2 /8s in that period.

Rgds, McTim

On Jun 19, 2011 12:53 AM, "Franck Martin" <franck.martin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes APNIC is still allocating, but they are in careful mode...
>
> I would have allocated so that all RIRs reach the same point more or less
at the same time. Seems like ARIN may take a year or two before reaching the
end of its pool.
>
> May be something like:
>
> APNIC:4
> ARIN:2
> RIPE:2
> LACNIC:1
> AFRINIC:1
>
> 10/8
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "McTim" <dogwallah at gmail.com>
> To: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Sent: Sunday, 19 June, 2011 6:45:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [At-Large] IPv4 or what is left of it...
>
> Hi franck,
>
> Whlle we could have a discussion it would be more capacity building than
> debate, as others have noted, the final allocations have been made.
>
> Afaik, apnic is still allocating and assigning ipv4. According to the
> global policies developed using the global pdp, each RIR was allocated one
> /8, when the IANA pool reached 5. How would you have divided up the pool?
>
> Why do you say "stuck"? Apnic has the most liberal IPv4 transfer policies
in
> the world. In any case, there are several economies in asia that are
> leading in ipv6 adoption which has led to bleeding edge mobile internet
> deployments.
>
> Rgds, McTim
>
> On Jun 18, 2011 10:08 AM, "Franck Martin" <franck.martin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Everyone talks about TLDs, etc... but IPs are also part of ICANN mandate.
>>
>> What I notice is that, APNIC is not anymore handing over IPv4 to anyone.
> RIPE pool of IPv4 is slowly decreasing, but ARIN pool is barely
decreasing.
>>
>> It means that the AP region is stuck to move to IPv6 while NA region has
> no incentive.
>>
>> Should there not be a better redistribution of the left over IPs over the
> RIR, to put all regions on same footing?
>>
>> I feel there is a debate worth having at ALAC?
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