[At-Large] U.S. seizure of .ORG domain name

[parminder]

Bill Silverstein wrote:
> I have objections to ICE and their reliability.
>
> 1. Ice fails to attempt to enforce immigration laws that they are required
> to enforce, such as employer inspections.
>
> 2. That it seems as though ICE ignores the principles of due process. That
> the US government talks about, and even preaches, individual rights.
> However, they have violated the law regarding individual rights (See
> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110202/03320812922/eff-finds-evidence-over-40000-intelligence-violations-fbi-since-911.shtml).
>
> I don't object to proper, court supervised process - ie. a lawsuit and
> resulting seizure.
>   
That may be ok for a US based view of a US citizen. However, what I 
understand the global community here is seized of is whether the 
operation of tlds, and thus the continued existence of websites and 
other internet operations using these tlds, should be subject to the US 
law. To illustrate with an example, my organisation IT for Change's 
website used .net tld. Now, can the website be brought down just because 
the US law at one point thinks that something is being done on the 
website which is inimical to US interests - maybe under the provision of 
some emergency laws. And I understand that as an alien my FoE will also 
not be considered/ protected by a US court at the same level as of a US 
citizen.

parminder
>
>
>   
>> I'd have no objection if ICE had used GoDaddy as the route to take
>> down the site. Registrants have choice.  TLD is different.
>>
>> My comment "this isn't a legal action, there has been no court case,
>> no due process." was extreme.  I've no idea what process has been
>> followed.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>     
>>>  >>> Rojadirecta is a popular sports streaming and P2P download site.
>>>       
>>>>>>  Rojadirecta is a legitimate Spanish business. Two Spanish courts
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>  ruled the site operates legally.
>>>>>>             
>>> I'm not a big fan of ICE, but if, as I understand, rojadirecta used a US
>>> registrar and a US proxy service for their domain name, why does anyone
>>> think Spanish law applied to the use of their name?
>>>
>>> Nobody claims that ICE has tried to shut down their operations outside
>>> the
>>> U.S.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Levine, johnl at iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet
>>> for Dummies",
>>> Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
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