Sounds like martial law and dictatorship. I don't see why there should be so many checks in a democratic process, if anyone in ICANN community or ALS endorses them then good enough. <div><br></div><div>Is APRALO funding ALS activities or the individuals work? If not then who are we to ask them? On what grounds and rationale are we subjecting them to this? Are we a multilateral treaty organisation? </div><div><br></div><div>This typical club or chapter like approach should be stopped in the first place. No one in the ICANN community had the right to subject any ALS or Individual to this. Processes should remain democratic and namely open. </div><div><br></div><div>An individuals seeking membership should be invited to a APRALO meeting online, asked for an introduction and the present quorum can vote them in or out. These martial law type checks should be dismissed.</div><div><br></div><div>You want them to share their work etc, give them blogs and it's their choice as to how much they share.</div><div><br></div><div>For some online dissidents and online dissident supporting groups, the current design can be a challenge so be sensitive APRALO. This is not an exclusive club. If this is a club then we should revisit our articles and ALACs remit.</div><div><br></div><div>Individual membership should have flexibility and not an agenda to strictly control it by the usual controllers.</div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div><div>Fouad<span></span></div><div><br></div><div><br>On Thursday, 22 October 2015, Maureen Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Thank you for your responses Amal. You have begun what I believe will be an interesting discussion. </p>
<p dir="ltr">I encourage others to join in. There is no obligation to answer all the questions - you may just choose to answer one or two points. Thats fine. Looking forward to hearing from you.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards<br>
Maureen</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 22/10/2015 2:38 pm, "Amal Ramzi" <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aurora96@ymail.com');" target="_blank">aurora96@ymail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div><span>Dear Maureen,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>I thought we can comment on the workspace. Anyway, I'll state my comment by replying to your email.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>- I think individual membership should be accepted only if there is no ALS in the country of the individual who may be the founder of his/her country's ALS . Otherwise S/he is asked to join an ALS in his country . </span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>- As for the criteria of accepting the individual membership according to their related affiliations or ICANN awareness, I think there should be an application for for individuals that includes some questions measuring the level and the type of the individual's involvement and background about ICANN or internet issues as the ALAC will decide .</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>- Yes, I support imposing a timeframed membership for both ALSes & individuals to activate the members roles within APRALO.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr">- I think the individual membership should be encouraged as well as ALSes, 'cause it leads to encourage more ALSes that might be come out by those individuals. So, individual membership shouldn't be that hard and nor that easy. Individuals affiliate to some organizations or associations may be accepted at first as individuals in order to be familiar with APRALO and be able to apply on behalf of their affiliations to represent an ALS. And the timeframed membership will make it easy to filter the individual & ALSes members regularly.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">That was my opinion limited to my knowledge.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thank you .</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best Regards, </div><div></div><div> </div><div><div><span style="color:rgb(76,118,162);font-style:italic;font-family:garamond,'new york',times,serif;font-weight:bold">Amal Al-saqqaf</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(76,118,162);font-style:italic;font-family:garamond,'new york',times,serif;font-weight:bold"><br></span></div><div style="text-align:center"><div style="text-align:left" dir="ltr"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:'Helvetica Neue','Segoe UI',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif;font-size:10pt">ISOC-Yemen</span></div><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue','Segoe UI',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif;font-size:10pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(31,73,125)"><div style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10pt">Sana'a - YEMEN</span></div><div style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10pt">Mobile: <a href="tel:%2B967%20733952811" value="+967733952811" target="_blank">+967 733952811</a></span></div></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:'Helvetica Neue','Segoe UI',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10pt">Email: </span> <a rel="nofollow" href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','federica.dispenza@undp.org');" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(25,106,212);font-size:10pt" target="_blank">a</a><span style="font-size:10pt"><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','malramzi88@yahoo.com');" target="_blank">malramzi88@yahoo.com</a></span></div><div style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:'Helvetica Neue','Segoe UI',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-align:left" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:10pt"> <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','contact@isoc.ye');" target="_blank">contact@isoc.ye</a></span></div><div style="text-align:left" dir="ltr"><font color="#1f497d" face="Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif" size="2">Website: <a href="http://www.isoc.ye/" target="_blank">http://www.isoc.ye/</a><br></font><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:'Helvetica Neue','Segoe UI',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif;font-size:10pt">LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/amalalsaqqaf" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/amalalsaqqaf</a></span></div></span></div><div style="text-align:center;color:rgb(128,255,255)"><br></div><div style="text-align:center;color:rgb(128,255,255)"><font size="5"><br style="font-weight:bold"><span style="font-weight:bold;background-color:rgb(0,127,127)"></span></font></div></div> <br><div><br><br></div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, October 21, 2015 8:54 PM, Maureen Hilyard <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','maureen.hilyard@gmail.com');" target="_blank">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div><div><div dir="ltr">Dear APRALO members<div><br></div><div><div><a rel="nofollow" href="https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+of+Procedures+Review+2015-+Individual+membership" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+of+Procedures+Review+2015-+Individual+membership</a> <br></div></div><div><br></div><div>On the workspace whose link is above, I have summarised some of the face-to-face discussion we had today at our monthly meeting, plus some comments that were already on the workspace about INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP.</div><div><br></div><div><div style="margin:10px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;line-height:25.3968px;background-color:rgb(235,242,249)">Before we move on to a formal set of criteria if would be good to get a sense of others' views on the following points:</div><ul style="margin:10px 0px 0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;line-height:25.3968px;background-color:rgb(235,242,249)"><li>should we expect individuals to prove that they are not affiliated with any ICANN or ALS related organisations - if so how would they do this?</li><li>what evidence should the provide to show that they are actually working on end-user activities and are aware of what ICANN is and does</li><li>should we impose timeframed membership for all ALSes as well as individual members - it would make it easier to get rid of the deadwood as Satish suggests?</li><li>should we impose a similar set of metrics for individual members as we do for ALSes?</li><li>What is an optimum sized package for an individual members ALS?</li><li>what process should we expect for them to vote for their representative of their ALS-type organisation?</li><li>should we be encouraging individual membership or encouraging ALSes?</li><li>Should we make it harder to be an individual member so that we can encourage more ALSes (to enable outreach from a common governance or technical starting point?)</li></ul><div style="margin:10px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;line-height:25.3968px;background-color:rgb(235,242,249)"> </div><div style="margin:10px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;line-height:25.3968px;background-color:rgb(235,242,249)">I would really appreciate your comments</div><div style="margin:10px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;line-height:25.3968px;background-color:rgb(235,242,249)">Maureen</div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>APAC-Discuss mailing list<br><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org');" target="_blank">APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br><a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss" target="_blank">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss</a><br><br>Homepage for the region: <a href="http://www.apralo.org/" target="_blank">http://www.apralo.org</a><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br>-- <br>Regards.<br>--------------------------<br>Fouad Bajwa<br>Public Policy Analyst<br>Follow my Tweets: <a href="http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa</a><br>My Blog: Internet's Governance: <a href="http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/</a><br><br>