[APAC-Discuss] ANNOUNCEMENT: Change in 2019 APRALO Individual Representative

Wed Jul 3 18:49:19 UTC 2019

Neeraj Ji,

I have seen multiple ICANN fellows who lives outside their country but got
fellowship representing their own country. It kind of felt sad and
unjustified but i though ICANN selection committee is okay with it.
So bringing this point in case of Mili is not fully justified aswell.

But Yes! i do believe she should have been more transparent while applying
for such an important position.

Shaila

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 6:42 PM Neeraj Kumar <neerajkumarindia at outlook.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It seems that Ms Mili Semlani has misrepresented in the ICANN 66
> fellowship application as well. She has got ICANN Fellowship as
> representing herself from India but it seems she actually lives in
> Singapore as evident in her Linkedin & Facebook profiles.
>
> Regards,
>
> Neeraj
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* APAC-Discuss <apac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on
> behalf of danny dong <dannydong at tech-center.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2019 5:56 PM
> *To:* Shreedeep Rayamajhi
> *Cc:* APAC-Discuss; ncuc-ap at lists.ncuc.org
> *Subject:* Re: [APAC-Discuss] ANNOUNCEMENT: Change in 2019 APRALO
> Individual Representative
>
>
> I also come to an agreement that excuse of newcomer given by Mili is not
> admissible for hiding something so critical when you are applying for such
> position. If I am not wrong as per ICANN operative procedure and code of
> ethics any candidate doing such act is immediately disqualified. So her
> selection is against the norms.
>
> Regards
>
> Danny
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 03, 2019 at 3:28 PM
> *From:* "Shreedeep Rayamajhi" <weaker41 at gmail.com>
> *To:* "Fariz Ahmadi" <farizahmadi at protonmail.com>
> *Cc:* APAC-Discuss <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>,
> ncuc-ap at lists.ncuc.org
> *Subject:* Re: [APAC-Discuss] ANNOUNCEMENT: Change in 2019 APRALO
> Individual Representative
> I completely agree with the argument of  farizahmadi and some what suport
> maureen but what i see is the problem as a whole.
>
> 1. Young leaders who are coming to the position are confused or are not
> prepapared or they have no idea about the constituencies,: we need better
> capacity and awarness program
> 2. The constituencies should have definite criteria for nomination such
> as  involvment and enagegment within the community as a compulsory clause
> for election purpose
> 3. Our mentoring or information dessimination is not working properly
> 4. The message that the community  is about enagement and work not about
> leadership position needs to be clear
> 5. Newcommers Enrollment programs needs to be further improvised
>
>
> Regards,
> Shreedeep Rayamajhi
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019, 1:56 PM Fariz Ahmadi via APAC-Discuss <
> apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>
> Dear Maureen
>
> I completely agree with what you said but totally disagree to what you
> think that if she is NEW so she is allowed to break all rules laid for
> groups by ICANN, it’s a community driven organization and basic foundation
> is TRUST. Which she has broken by hiding the facts to achieve this
> position. We should not set such examples for other else in future everyone
> will follow same.
>
> It my individual views and I trust other members and chairs in both groups
> will also agree with it.
> Thanks
> Farizahmadi
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 1:31 PM, Maureen Hilyard <
> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you for your comment Fariz.
>
> However, I think that if you were to look within At-Large you will find
> that we have people who have their feet in one or two other sections of the
> ICANN community. We are trying to break down the silos and trying to work
> together a lot more so that we can further our understanding about the
> different interests that each community section serves.
>
> Mili is new to our system but eager to learn more about ICANN. NCUC offers
> an opportunity for a voice for the Asia Pacific region and I admire that
> she has opted for a leadership role that will heighten the views of the
> Asia Pacific in a section where that view is lacking but also a section
> that At-Large has been working with for some time to build better relations
> and understandings. What Mili has also done is to enable another At-Large
> member to join the leadership ranks. Welcome to Hanan Khatib.
>
> Just as others who work with other sections of iCANN because it is their
> day job, yet continue to join the At-Large CPWG and bring the perspective
> of their other community to our conversations, I am sure that Mili too will
> be able to bring a NCUC view to our discussions and vice versa.  We must
> celebrate her decision which I know she feels will give the better value
> for At-Large.
>
> Maureen
> ALAC Chair
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 9:43 PM Fariz Ahmadi via APAC-Discuss <
> apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I wish to seriously add something here and its flag for both NCUC and At
> Large and even other groups of ICANN.
>
> I completely disagree with the point given by Mili and I would say it was
> completely unethical act at her part. We chose her the voice of APRALO
> individual members with lot of trust and respect.
>
> But she inspite of knowing the fact that when anyone apply for any
> position he/she has to declare any conflict of interest. But she kept NCUC
> and At Large in dark and given false statement by hiding the facts that she
> is already on one position she cannot hold leadership position in an
> different ICANN constituencies simultaneously until she first step down
> from first and then apply for another.
>
> This is completely unethical at her part that she try to play safe by
> retaining position here and additionally applying in NCUC so that incase if
> she don’t get selected their she atleast have one.
>
> *I totally not accept such acts by any individuals here in NCUC and At
> Large and request that her nominations and positions should be cancelled
> with immediate effect as its clearly a non-comprisable and acceptable act.*
>
> Thanks
> Farizahmadi
>
>
> *From:* Mili <milisemlani at gmail.com>
> *To:* ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> *Cc:* Satish Babu via APAC-Discuss <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [APAC-Discuss] ANNOUNCEMENT: Change in 2019 APRALO
> Individual Representative
> *Date:* 02 Jul 2019 08:38:16 PM
>
> Dear all,
>   I am deeply humbled and extremely grateful that you chose me to be the
> voice of APRALO individual members. But I have to say this with a heavy
> heart that I will not be able to continue with this role as I am elected as
> NCUC EC for APAC. As a relative newcomer to ICANN, I was not aware of the
> conflict in interest both these positions lead to (as one cannot hold
> leadership position in an different ICANN constituencies simultanoeusly). I
> apologise for not keeping up with the trust you all have vested in me.
>
> But I hope you understand my reasons for doing so:
>
> 1. *NCUC and At Large are like cousins in the ICANN ecosystem*. For those
> of you who may not know, NCUC too protects and voices the issues of the end
> users, registrants (who are majorly internet end users too. But while our
> TG groups are aligned, both operate at different levels in the ICANN
> ecosystem and policy development process. *NCUC has very few
> representatives from the Asia Pacific *
> *region* (let alone leaders)and  while I would like to retain your
> membership of APRALO and At-Large I also believe that *increasing the
> Asia Pacific voice within NCUC is very important at this time*, even
> while being pulled by my loyalty to At-Large.
>
> 2. Also as a continuing individual member of APRALO (which is still
> allowed) I believe I could *encourage the continued relationship building
> between At-Large and the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG)* and
> would support and be actively engaged in the joint activities that have
> already been established between At-Large and NCUC and NPOC. APRALO and
> At Large may also *benefit from a staunch At-Large supporter in NCUC,
> thus reinstate the voice of end users and particularly from APAC.*
>
> 3. While *my engagement and support for APRALO will in no way reduce*, if
> anything, it will *only enhance my understanding of policy development* and
> open yet another avenue for us to support out regions issues. This dilemma
> and my decision to withdraw from my first and recently elected position
> and to move on and become the best representative for APRALO on the Executive
> Committee at Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) was not an easy one.
>
> 4. Wrt the leadership position, the *NCUC EC in APAC definitely needs
> someone more committed to the region (especially when there are no other
> takers and the seat would remain vacant which would mean no APAC leader
> there)* and I think my time and experience can be of great benefit for
> the same. But at the same time I feel guilty of letting down the trustof individual
> APRALO members vested in me in the recent elections.
>
> I hope you will understand my disposition and support my decision. I am
> sincerely apologetic about giving up the APRALO Individual member rep role
> (after winning with a big majority) and all the inconvenience caused to
> APRALO leaders, staff and members.
>
> Congrats Hanan and good luck!
> —
> With gratitude
> Mili Semlani
>
>
> On 02-Jul-2019, at 16:23, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> On behalf of Satish Babu, APRALO Chair, this is to let you know the
> elected 2019 APRALO Individual Representative, Milli Semlani, has stepped
> down due to personal obligations. The candidate with the second most votes
> in the 2019 APRALO Individual Representative Election was Hanan Khatib:
> Vote on 2019 APRALO Individual Representative
>
> *Rank*
>
> *Vote Option ID*
>
> *Vote Option*
>
> *Votes*
>
> *%*
>
> 1
>
> 15998138
>
> Mili Semlani
>
> 6
>
> 54.55
>
> *2*
>
> *15998137*
>
> *Hanan Khatib*
>
> *3*
>
> *27.27*
>
> 3
>
> 15998136
>
> Justine Chew (current APRALO Individual Representative)
>
> 2
>
> 18.18
>
> You may view the result independently here:
> https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=13375255Yh5qCsngcjnVgNewymq
>
> Therefore, we would like to thank Milli for her service and congratulate
> Hanan on assuming her new role and duties in representing the APRALO
> Individual Member community.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community
>
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