[APAC-Discuss] ANNOUNCEMENT: Change in 2019 APRALO Individual Representative
h.raiche at internode.on.net
h.raiche at internode.on.net
Wed Jul 3 11:19:09 UTC 2019
Thanks Maureen and Shreedeep.
First, I too am very disappointed by Mili. In the first instance, we
need to be VERY clear about what is required and very clear about what
constitutes conflict of interest.
I also think Shreedeep's suggestions are really useful and should be
addressed.
Holly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maureen Hilyard"
To:"Shreedeep Rayamajhi"
Cc:"Maureen Hilyard"
Sent:Wed, 3 Jul 2019 01:11:52 -1000
Subject:Re: [APAC-Discuss] ANNOUNCEMENT: Change in 2019 APRALO
Individual Representative
This is an excellent analysis Shreedeep and it goes beyond this
particular instance.
One of the At-Large review activities we still have to work on is a
review of the criteria and expectations of ALSes and Individual
members... and one of these is job descriptions. We do not have JDs
for some of the jobs we advertise for so it makes it difficult for
people to apply without knowing what they are applying for.
Individual members is a fairly new category and our review of
individual members (as well as ALSes) themselves is going to be quite
comprehensive. Therefore the leadership JDs will also be more detailed
and more specific. At the moment the only formal role that this person
currently has, is to vote on behalf of the other individual members
should the RALO ever hold a vote on something. But the JD also needs
to take into consideration other leadership roles within the RALO.
These matters will be discussed when the Working Group is established
shortly. And thank you for adding to this conversation.
Maureen
On Tue, 2 Jul 2019, 11:58 PM Shreedeep Rayamajhi, wrote:
I completely agree with the argument of farizahmadi and some what
suport maureen but what i see is the problem as a whole.
1. Young leaders who are coming to the position are confused or are
not prepapared or they have no idea about the constituencies,: we need
better capacity and awarness program 2. The constituencies should
have definite criteria for nomination such as involvment and
enagegment within the community as a compulsory clause for election
purpose 3. Our mentoring or information dessimination is not working
properly 4. The message that the community is about enagement and
work not about leadership position needs to be clear 5. Newcommers
Enrollment programs needs to be further improvised
Regards, Shreedeep Rayamajhi
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019, 1:56 PM Fariz Ahmadi via APAC-Discuss wrote:
Dear Maureen
I completely agree with what you said but totally disagree to what
you think that if she is NEW so she is allowed to break all rules laid
for groups by ICANN, it’s a community driven organization and basic
foundation is TRUST. Which she has broken by hiding the facts to
achieve this position. We should not set such examples for other else
in future everyone will follow same.
It my individual views and I trust other members and chairs in both
groups will also agree with it.
Thanks
Farizahmadi
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On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 1:31 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
Thank you for your comment Fariz.
However, I think that if you were to look within At-Large you will
find that we have people who have their feet in one or two other
sections of the ICANN community. We are trying to break down the silos
and trying to work together a lot more so that we can further our
understanding about the different interests that each community
section serves.
Mili is new to our system but eager to learn more about ICANN. NCUC
offers an opportunity for a voice for the Asia Pacific region and I
admire that she has opted for a leadership role that will heighten the
views of the Asia Pacific in a section where that view is lacking but
also a section that At-Large has been working with for some time to
build better relations and understandings. What Mili has also done is
to enable another At-Large member to join the leadership ranks.
Welcome to Hanan Khatib.
Just as others who work with other sections of iCANN because it is
their day job, yet continue to join the At-Large CPWG and bring the
perspective of their other community to our conversations, I am sure
that Mili too will be able to bring a NCUC view to our discussions and
vice versa. We must celebrate her decision which I know she feels
will give the better value for At-Large.
Maureen
ALAC Chair
On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 9:43 PM Fariz Ahmadi via APAC-Discuss wrote:
Dear all,
I wish to seriously add something here and its flag for both NCUC and
At Large and even other groups of ICANN.
I completely disagree with the point given by Mili and I would say it
was completely unethical act at her part. We chose her the voice of
APRALO individual members with lot of trust and respect.
But she inspite of knowing the fact that when anyone apply for any
position he/she has to declare any conflict of interest But she kept
NCUC and At Large in dark and given false statement by hiding the
facts that she is already on one position she cannot hold leadership
position in an different ICANN constituencies simultaneously until she
first step down from first and then apply for another.
This is completely unethical at her part that she try to play safe by
retaining position here and additionally applying in NCUC so that
incase if she don’t get selected their she atleast have one.
I TOTALLY NOT ACCEPT SUCH ACTS BY ANY INDIVIDUALS HERE IN NCUC AND AT
LARGE AND REQUEST THAT HER NOMINATIONS AND POSITIONS SHOULD BE
CANCELLED WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT AS ITS CLEARLY A NON-COMPRISABLE AND
ACCEPTABLE ACT.
Thanks
Farizahmadi
FROM: Mili
TO: ICANN At-Large Staff
CC: Satish Babu via APAC-Discuss
SUBJECT: Re: [APAC-Discuss] ANNOUNCEMENT: Change in 2019 APRALO
Individual Representative
DATE: 02 Jul 2019 08:38:16 PM
Dear all,
I am deeply humbled and extremely grateful that you chose me to
be the voice of APRALO individual members. But I have to say this with
a heavy heart that I will not be able to continue with this role as I
am elected as NCUC EC for APAC. As a relative newcomer to ICANN, I was
not aware of the conflict in interest both these positions lead to (as
one cannot hold leadership position in an different ICANN
constituencies simultanoeusly). I apologise for not keeping up with
the trust you all have vested in me.
But I hope you understand my reasons for doing so:
1. NCUC AND AT LARGE ARE LIKE COUSINS IN THE ICANN ECOSYSTEM. For
those of you who may not know, NCUC too protects and voices the issues
of the end users, registrants (who are majorly internet end users too.
But while our TG groups are aligned, both operate at different levels
in the ICANN ecosystem and policy development process. NCUC HAS VERY
FEW REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ASIA PACIFIC
REGION (let alone leaders)and while I would like to retain
your membership of APRALO and At-Large I also believe
that INCREASING THE ASIA PACIFIC VOICE WITHIN NCUC IS VERY IMPORTANT
AT THIS TIME, even while being pulled by my loyalty to At-Large.
2. Also as a continuing individual member of APRALO (which is still
allowed) I believe I could ENCOURAGE THE CONTINUED RELATIONSHIP
BUILDING BETWEEN AT-LARGE AND THE NON-COMMERCIAL STAKEHOLDER GROUP
(NCSG) and would support and be actively engaged in the joint
activities that have already been established between At-Large and
NCUC and NPOC. APRALO and At Large may also BENEFIT FROM A STAUNCH
AT-LARGE SUPPORTER IN NCUC, THUS REINSTATE THE VOICE OF END USERS AND
PARTICULARLY FROM APAC.
3. While MY ENGAGEMENT AND SUPPORT FOR APRALO WILL IN NO WAY REDUCE,
if anything, it will ONLY ENHANCE MY UNDERSTANDING OF POLICY
DEVELOPMENT and open yet another avenue for us to support out
regions issues. This dilemma and my decision to withdraw from my
first and recently elected position and to move on and become the
best representative for APRALO on the Executive Committee
at Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) was not an easy one.
4. Wrt the leadership position, the NCUC EC IN APAC DEFINITELY
NEEDS SOMEONE MORE COMMITTED TO THE REGION (ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE
NO OTHER TAKERS AND THE SEAT WOULD REMAIN VACANT WHICH WOULD MEAN NO
APAC LEADER THERE) and I think my time and experience can be of great
benefit for the same. But at the same time I feel guilty of letting
down the trustof individual APRALO members vested in me in the recent
elections.
I hope you will understand my disposition and support my decision. I
am sincerely apologetic about giving up the APRALO Individual member
rep role (after winning with a big majority) and all the inconvenience
caused to APRALO leaders, staff and members.
Congrats Hanan and good luck!
—
With gratitude
Mili Semlani
On 02-Jul-2019, at 16:23, ICANN At-Large Staff wrote:
Dear All,
On behalf of Satish Babu, APRALO Chair, this is to let you know the
elected 2019 APRALO Individual Representative, Milli Semlani, has
stepped down due to personal obligations. The candidate with the
second most votes in the 2019 APRALO Individual Representative
Election was Hanan Khatib:
VOTE ON 2019 APRALO INDIVIDUAL REPRESENTATIVE
RANK
VOTE OPTION ID
VOTE OPTION
VOTES
%
1
15998138
Mili Semlani
6
54.55
2
15998137
HANAN KHATIB
3
27.27
3
15998136
Justine Chew (current APRALO Individual Representative)
2
18.18
You may view the result independently
here: https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=13375255Yh5qCsngcjnVgNewymq
[9]
Therefore, we would like to thank Milli for her service and
congratulate Hanan on assuming her new role and duties in representing
the APRALO Individual Member community.
Kind Regards,
ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community
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