[APAC-Discuss] APAC-Discuss Digest, Vol 125, Issue 14
Faheem Soomro/TEC/SKR
faheem.soomro at jazz.com.pk
Tue Apr 18 12:20:50 UTC 2017
I strongly endorse Mr. Rahul, that every new joiner must be given a complete guide book, to start and perform, and how to contribute and where to contribute?, I myself being a new joiner, doesn’t know where to start.
Regards,
Faheem Soomro.
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This Form is certainly a better way of on-boarding member.
I would suggest to mention what are the expectations from members on this form. This would give fair idea to new members what they are getting into.
Post membership is approved there should be a welcome guide book sent over the e-mail explaining new members how to start and various ways they can contribute to.
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Rahul
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: APRALO Individual membership form for review, comments
and approval- Deadline April 26 - 23 UTC (Satish Babu)
2. Re: APRALO Individual membership form for review, comments
and approval- Deadline April 26 - 23 UTC (Shreedeep Rayamajhi)
Dear all,
Thanks to everyone who has responded. Here are a few clarifications:
1. Unaffiliated Individual Members (individual members who are not affiliated to existing APRALO ALSes) have been part of our RoPs from 2014. The concept was introduced largely as a mechanism for admitting interested individuals who either had no ALSes near them, or were unable for any reason to operate through existing ALSes. We had already started admitting UIMs from around 2015. Therefore, this form does not reflect any change in policy, only in procedure.
As explained in the March APRALO monthly call, the main reason for introducing a new format is to gather additional information about the individuals who apply for joining us (APRALO's existing admission process is almost automatic once the applicant provides a self-declared affirmation of required criteria).
2. The RoPs state that all UIMs jointly select one representative (Section 27.5.2.6-8) to represent their positions within APRALO. We plan to create the procedure for this process before our GA, scheduled for Oct 2017 (of course, this may be subject to the outcome of the At-Large Review that is currently in its final stage).
3. On the matter of the application form, we had originally planned to do it as a web page (form), but as ICANN's web team is busy at this time, we couldn't get it done. In the meantime, we will be sending the form as a PDF file to individual membership applicants, which they can fill up and return. When we do the web version, we will move out the long list of topics as a pop-up window, without cluttering up the main form (Thanks to Silvia and other Staff for their help!).
4. We plan to incorporate any major suggestions from the community and operationalize the form from the APRALO Monthly call on 27 April.
With kind regards,
satish
(travelling, email responses may be delayed)
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com<mailto:nadira.araj at gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks to all who worked on the application form for individual memberships.
I didn't check NARALO's rules for individual members, but does the description in the form captures all the rights of these individuals?
Are individual member have the same status or rights in RALOs as ALSes?
One of my concerns is the weakening of the ALS's on the national level.
Also the point was mentioned by Holly, of the possibility of having some kind of entities (as in ISOC special interest groups across boarders within the region) that represents individual members.
I believe the above points are critical on the long run, better to be given more thoughts in advance before launching the acceptance of applications from the individual members.
On Apr 18, 2017 05:39, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:
The term originated with the North American RALO which has had individual members who are unaffiliated with any ALS. In the NARALO rules, they are referred to as "unaffiliated individuals", but once they join NARALO, the term "unaffiliated member" has been used.
You are correct that "unaffiliated member" is somewhat of a contradiction in that members are implicitly "affiliated" with the group of which they are a member. It has never been mentioned before, but perhaps it needs to be rethought as we move to having such a category in all RALOs.
Alan
At 17/04/2017 09:38 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
I am not interested anymore in becoming an Apralo member because I have been affiliated and lead other parts of this community. But my question is how
And why would you become an unaffiliated member? I was first accepted as the individual member of apralo. Then they said I become an observer cause apralo didn't accept indivudal members and didn't have the rules in place . now an unaffiliated member ... Unafiliated member is an oxymoron however you want to define it. Voting non voting member. ... The term just doesn't sound right.
On 17 Apr 2017 7:49 p.m., "Holly Raiche" < h.raiche at internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche at internode.on.net>> wrote:
Thanks for distributing this - and a reminder to us all that we need to finalise this process.
A couple of comments (and I am repeating myself here)
First, I think we have captured the main comments people have made. On their interest in public interest/consumer issues, I†d slightly rephrase to have just one sentence asking for their past experience/activites or whatever in representing the public interest/interests of end users. -= then end sentence. New sentence to ask about past/current affiliations - making it clear that we want a clear statement of their interests/involvement in public interest/consumer issues.
My other comment - that is a LONG list of topics. Should we shorten it.
Otherwise, I’m happy.
I think, down the track, we can consider whether we follow other models in having one ALS for all unaffiliated members - but that can wait until we have sufficient numbers to worry about
Holly
On 18 Apr 2017, at 8:26 am, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco at icann.org<mailto:silvia.vivanco at icann.org> > wrote:
Dear APRALO members,
On behalf of APRALO’s Chair Satish Babu, please be so kind to review the form to become an Unaffiliated APRALO member, posted on the following wiki page and also attached to this email for your convenience.
https://community.icann.org/di splay/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+of+ Procedures+Review+-+Individual +membership<https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+of+Procedures+Review+-+Individual+membership>
Once approved, this form will be posted on the APRALO website, applicants will need to download the form, fill it in and send it to At-Large staff by email. The requests to become individual members of APRALO will continue to be handled by staff as per the current APRALO rules.
Please include your comments in the comment section of the wiki page if possible or by email bynext Wednesday April 26 at 23 UTC.
Thank you!
Kind regards,
Silvia
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On Apr 18, 2017 8:24 AM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:
The term originated with the North American RALO which has had individual members who are unaffiliated with any ALS. In the NARALO rules, they are referred to as "unaffiliated individuals", but once they join NARALO, the term "unaffiliated member" has been used.
You are correct that "unaffiliated member" is somewhat of a contradiction in that members are implicitly "affiliated" with the group of which they are a member. It has never been mentioned before, but perhaps it needs to be rethought as we move to having such a category in all RALOs.
Alan
At 17/04/2017 09:38 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
I am not interested anymore in becoming an Apralo member because I have been affiliated and lead other parts of this community. But my question is how
And why would you become an unaffiliated member? I was first accepted as the individual member of apralo. Then they said I become an observer cause apralo didn't accept indivudal members and didn't have the rules in place . now an unaffiliated member ... Unafiliated member is an oxymoron however you want to define it. Voting non voting member. ... The term just doesn't sound right.
On 17 Apr 2017 7:49 p.m., "Holly Raiche" < h.raiche at internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche at internode.on.net>> wrote:
Thanks for distributing this - and a reminder to us all that we need to finalise this process.
A couple of comments (and I am repeating myself here)
First, I think we have captured the main comments people have made. On their interest in public interest/consumer issues, I†d slightly rephrase to have just one sentence asking for their past experience/activites or whatever in representing the public interest/interests of end users. -= then end sentence. New sentence to ask about past/current affiliations - making it clear that we want a clear statement of their interests/involvement in public interest/consumer issues.
My other comment - that is a LONG list of topics. Should we shorten it.
Otherwise, I’m happy.
I think, down the track, we can consider whether we follow other models in having one ALS for all unaffiliated members - but that can wait until we have sufficient numbers to worry about
Holly
On 18 Apr 2017, at 8:26 am, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco at icann.org<mailto:silvia.vivanco at icann.org> > wrote:
Dear APRALO members,
On behalf of APRALO’s Chair Satish Babu, please be so kind to review the form to become an Unaffiliated APRALO member, posted on the following wiki page and also attached to this email for your convenience.
https://community.icann.org/ display/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+ of+Procedures+Review+-+ Individual+membership<https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+of+Procedures+Review+-+Individual+membership>
Once approved, this form will be posted on the APRALO website, applicants will need to download the form, fill it in and send it to At-Large staff by email. The requests to become individual members of APRALO will continue to be handled by staff as per the current APRALO rules.
Please include your comments in the comment section of the wiki page if possible or by email bynext Wednesday April 26 at 23 UTC.
Thank you!
Kind regards,
Silvia
Silvia Vivanco
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