[APAC-Discuss] [NA-Discuss] Wrong Context for Deciding How to Address EBW's Questions

Garth Bruen gbruen at knujon.com
Thu Mar 6 17:57:03 UTC 2014


As Chair of NARALO I can confirm that Eric is a member of the ISOC SF

In general I would rather not limit anyone's voice. HOWEVER, Eric's access to At-Large discussions has been suspended pending an apology requested by myself for making personal statements about members of the ICANN community which did not pertain to policy but were rather Ad Hominem.

I have not read the questions myself, but will now.


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From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Subrenat, Jean-Jacques
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:46 PM
To: Carlton Samuels
Cc: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org; Discussion for At-Large Europe; afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org Discuss; Tijani Ben Jemaa; At-Large Announcements; APRALO; At-Large Worldwide; NA Discuss
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Wrong Context for Deciding How to Address EBW's Questions

I agree with the points made by Olivier and Carlton.

I'm prepared to respond to Eric, but am waiting for one of two things:
- that his questions be duly posted on the Questions and Answers Workspace,
- or that I be told by Staff, on behalf of Tijani, that Eric's questions are to be responded to in the Questions and Answers Workspace, even if his questions are not posted there.

Thank you.
Jean-Jacques.



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From: "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
To: "Tijani Ben Jemaa" <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
Cc: "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" <jjs at dyalog.net>, "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org, "Discussion for At-Large Europe" <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org Discuss" <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "At-Large Announcements" <alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "APRALO" <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "NA Discuss" <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Sent: Jeudi 6 Mars 2014 18:31:42
Subject: Wrong Context for Deciding How to Address EBW's Questions



Dear Tijani: 
I have read your response to JJS's query and would wish to provide a different context for applying whether the questions from EBW should command response. 


I seriously doubt if the case that " Eric is not an at-large member' is good and sufficient to ignore his questions. In fact that criteria is misplaced and fundamentally at odds with the conceptual underpinnings of the At-Large's in the ICANN community and the ALAC's role in ICANN operations and governance. 


The At-Large is recognized as the home of the ordinary internet user in the ICANN ecosystem. While we have embraced a certain organisational framework as a management tool, active participation of any internet user in ICANN policy development is the bottomline objective 


So long as Eric Brunner Williams is an internet enduser and while he remains within the framework of acceptable conduct established by the At-Large thru ALAC, there can be no other membership criteria for participation. 


You may use other [valid] criteria to reject broadcasting his questions. And candidates have an absolute right to ignore him and not answer, again for various and sundry reasons. But a status of membership or membership criteria may not be employed as disqualifiers. 


And I say this as one who has been unfairly maligned by the said Eric Brunner Williams.. 


Best, 
-Carlton 



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On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Tijani BENJEMAA < tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn > wrote: 


Dear Jean Jacques, 



Thank you for answering the questions posted on the wiki. 

As for Eric questions, Evan said Eric is not an at-large member. If he is not, we will ignore his questions. If he is, his question will be posted on the wiki to be answered by the candidates. 



Heidi, can you please confirm that Eric is not an At-Large member??? 



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De : afri-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: afri-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] De la part de Subrenat, Jean-Jacques 
Envoyé : jeudi 6 mars 2014 12:21 
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Cc : lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org ; euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org ; afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org ; alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org ; apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org ; na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
Objet : Re: [AFRI-Discuss] [At-Large] REMINDER: At-Large BOARD DIRECTOR Question and Answer Workspace - Deadline: 10 March 



Dear Tijani and Heidi, 



1) This is to let you know that, in response to the questions from Eduardo Diaz, I've posted my replies in the Questions and Answers Workspace 

https://community.icann.org/display/ABMS/2014+At-Large+Board+Director+Candidates+-+Questions+and+Answers+Workspace . 



2) I requested your guidance about the questions from Eric Brunner-Williams, which I have only received in email form, but which are not (yet?) on the Questions and Answers Workspace. A point was raised by Alan about regional factors, and Eric replied by addressing the questions to the individuals, rather than in their regional capacity. Do you intend to post Eric's questions, to be replied to in the same format as Eduardo's questions? 



Thank you. 



Best regards, 

Jean-Jacques. 









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From: "Heidi Ullrich" < Heidi.Ullrich at icann.org > 

To: alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org , "At-Large Worldwide ( at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org )" < at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org >, afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org , apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org , euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org , lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org , na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org 

Sent: Jeudi 6 Mars 2014 01:54:14 

Subject: [At-Large] REMINDER: At-Large BOARD DIRECTOR Question and Answer Workspace - Deadline: 10 March 



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Dear All, 



On behalf of Tjani Ben Jemaa, Chair of the BMSPC, please find the 2014 At-Large Board Director Candidates - Questions and Answers Workspace (see: https://community.icann.org/display/ABMS/2014+At-Large+Board+Director+Candidates+-+Questions+and+Answers+Workspace ). 



This Workspace will serve as the mechanism for the At-Large community to ask questions to the 2014 Board Director Candidates and for the Candidates to reply to the questions. 



The Workspace will be open from now, Monday, 3 March 2014 through Monday, 10 March 2014 at 23:59 UTC. 



The At-Large community members having a login are requested to ask their questions directly on the wiki. The others may send their questions to At-Large staff ( staff at atlarge.icann.org <mailto: staff at atlarge.icann.org >) and we will post them on the wiki. 



The candidates are requested to continuously visit the wiki and answer the questions directly there since they all should have a login. 



Regards, 



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Bonjour à tous, 



Au nom de Tjani Ben Jemaa, Président de la BMSPC, merci de trouver ci-joint l'espace de travail pour les Questions et Réponses aux Candidats At-Large 2014 au Conseil d'Administration (Board) (voir: https://community.icann. .org/display/ABMS/2014+At-Large+Board+Director+Candidates+-+Questions+and+Answers+Workspace). 



Cet espace de travail servira de mécanisme afin que la communauté At-Large puisse poser des questions aux Candidats At-Large 2014 au Conseil d'Administration et que les candidats puissent y à répondre. 



L'espace de travail sera ouvert du lundi 3 mars 2014 au lundi 10 mars 2014, à 23:59 UTC. 



Les membres de la communauté At-Large ayant un login sont invités à poser leurs questions directement sur le wiki. Les autres peuvent envoyer leurs questions au personnel At-Large ( staff at atlarge.icann.org <mailto: staff at atlarge.icann.org >) et nous les publierons sur le wiki. 



Les candidats sont invités à consulter le wiki régulièrement et de répondre aux questions directement sur cet espace. 



Cordialement, 



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Estimados todos, 



En nombre de Tjani Ben Jemaa, Presidente del BMSPC, por favor vea abajo el espacio WIKI con las Preguntas y Respuestas a los Candidatos a Director de la Junta Directiva de ICANN 2014 (vea : https://community.icann.org/display/ABMS/2014+At-Large+Board+Director+Candidates+-+Questions+and+Answers+Workspace ). 



Este espacio de trabajo servirá como el mecanismo a disposición de la comunidad de At-Large para hacer preguntas y para los candidatos a la posición de Director 2014 para responder a estas preguntas. 



El Grupo de trabajo estará abierto desde ahora, Lunes, 3 Marzo de 2014 hasta el Lunes 10 de Marzo del 2014 a las 23:59 UTC. 



Los miembros de la comunidad de At-Large que tengan un login sírvanse hacer sus preguntas directamente en la Wiki. Los demás miembros pueden también enviar sus preguntas al personal de At-Large staff ( staff at atlarge.icann.org <mailto: staff at atlarge.icann.org >) y nosotros los colocaremos en la página Wiki. 



Se les pide a los candidatos que visiten la página wiki constantemente y respondan las preguntas directamente en la Wiki, dado que todos los candidatos deben tener un login. 





Saludos cordiales, 



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