[APAC-Discuss] Regional Advice on .HEALTH Objection

Tue Mar 5 23:58:47 UTC 2013

Thanks Alan, this is really useful.

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>wrote:

> That message from Garth was just posted a few minutes ago, so the replies
> have not yet arrived.
>
> See http://atlarge-lists.icann.**org/pipermail/na-discuss/2013-**
> March/date.html<http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/na-discuss/2013-March/date.html>as they come in.
>
> Alan
>
>
> At 05/03/2013 06:52 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote:
>
>> Thanks Cheryl. This was useful reading.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Sala
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > FYI...  from the sister NA discuss list copied here as I suspect not
>> all of
>> > you subscribe to all lists...
>> > *Cheryl Langdon-Orr ...  **(CLO)*
>> >  http://about.me/cheryl.**LangdonOrr<http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr>
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Garth Bruen <gbruen at knujon.com>
>> > Date: 6 March 2013 10:33
>> > Subject: [NA-Discuss] Regional Advice on .HEALTH Objection
>> > To: na-discuss at atlarge-lists.**icann.org<na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear NARALO'ers (-ites?),
>> >
>> > The region must answer a series of questions (one for each applicant) in
>> > response to the .HEALTH objection:
>> >
>> > https://community.icann.org/**display/newgtldrg/Advice+from+**
>> the+RALOs+to+the+A<https://community.icann.org/display/newgtldrg/Advice+from+the+RALOs+to+the+A>
>> > LAC+regarding+the+objection+**statements
>> >
>> > My recommendation is to answer "NO" or to abstain in ALL FIVE cases and
>> I
>> > will explain why.
>> >
>> > Some members of the region believed the system had been "gamed" in the
>> > denial of the .AMAZON, .PATAGOINA, etc. objections. Well, I am concerned
>> > also about gaming but from a different direction. My first and foremost
>> > concern is the integrity of At-Large, and I believe that answering
>> "Yes" to
>> > these objection questions may result in a misuse of our authority in
>> this
>> > portion of the objection process. I have two concerns: one specific and
>> one
>> > general.
>> >
>> > First, one of the objections is to a Chinese IDN string application.
>> This
>> > IDN was bundled in the objection with the four Latin-script/English
>> > Language
>> > "HEALTH" strings. However, the IDN is variously translated as "HEALTHY"
>> as
>> > well as "HEALTH." In our Review Group discussions I made the point that
>> > "HEALTH" is an industry and "HEALTHY" is a general state. In further
>> review
>> > of the application for the IDN string the applicant marked the
>> translation
>> > as "HEALTHY" and even more broadly described it as "WELLNESS." The
>> > objection
>> > to the .HEALTH applications firmly frames its concerns as the
>> > medical-industry use of the word "HEALTH." The application for the
>> Chinese
>> > IDN concerns a much more general category and as such is not factually
>> > covered by the objection. I lobbied unsuccessfully within the Review
>> Group
>> > to drop this objection from the list as it does not fit the situation
>> and
>> > the passing of this objection may appear to be a mistake by members of
>> the
>> > community who actually speak Chinese.
>> >
>> > Second, I am opposed to the other four objections regardless of the
>> > specific
>> > problems with the Chinese IDN objection. My opposition stems from the
>> fact
>> > that this does not appear to be a true community objection. While the
>> > objector has healthcare related credentials I have significant doubts
>> about
>> > the sincerity objection. The objection makes the case that .HEALTH needs
>> > special protections to keep consumers from being abused in terms of
>> > potentially fraudulent medical websites. While I would agree, the
>> objector
>> > did not file similar objections to .MEDICAL, .HEALTHCARE, .DENTIST,
>> > .DENTAL,
>> > .DOCTOR, .HOSPITAL, .SURGERY or .MED. When the objector was asked why,
>>  his
>> > answer only confirmed my suspicion of his specific objection to the
>> > "HEALTH"
>> > string and not new gTLDs potentially impacting the medical or health
>> > communities. Further, this objection appears in large part to be backed
>> and
>> > supported by the World Health Organization. While the WHO represents
>> global
>> > health interests it is my personal belief the objection to this string
>> > represents a narrow interest in the string itself and not the meaning.
>> It
>> > is
>> > my opinion that this objection, if supported by At-Large, in fact
>> > represents
>> > a more serious threat to the public interest than deployment of the
>> string
>> > itself.
>> >
>> > Anyone should feel free to disagree or engage in discussion.
>> >
>> > Thank you, Garth
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------**-------
>> >
>> > Garth Bruen
>> > gbruen at knujon.com
>> >
>> >
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