[APAC-Discuss] ALS Feedback points
Siranush Vardanyan
siranush_vardanyan at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 2 09:02:30 UTC 2013
Dear Pavan,
Thanks for capturing all this. The feedback provides good points for keeping in mind for future meetings (both f2f and during conference calls).
Thanks again
Siranush
Armenia
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> 1. Re: At-Large Community Views Requested on Draft Final Report
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> 2. ALS Feedback points (Pavan Budhrani)
> 3. Re: ALS Feedback points (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro)
> 4. Re: At-Large Community Views Requested on Draft Final Report
> on Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs (Edmon)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:31:58 +0530
> From: Satish Babu <director at icfoss.in>
> To: Rinalia Abdul Rahim <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>
> Cc: apralo <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, No name
> <idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, ALAC Working List
> <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, ec at isoc.my
> Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] At-Large Community Views Requested on
> Draft Final Report on Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs
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> Hi Rinalia
> Thanks for the document.
>
> Coming from a linguistically diverse country, I fully endorse the
> recommendations made by the JIG, and also support the position that
> you have proposed for ALAC.
>
> As a programmer, I see several challenges ahead for
> DNS/website/database administrators in retrofitting IDNs into their
> Internet applications. I am curious to know if there any remaining
> technical issues that will need resolution before the Universal
> Acceptance policy can be reliably rolled out...in particular, are the
> issues around IDN variants (esp. security related) fully resolved ?
>
>
>
> satish
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Rinalia Abdul Rahim
> <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello, everyone.
> >
> > I have not received feedback regarding the 9-page draft final report from
> > the JIG. My personal opinion is that recommendations of the report do
> > require At-Large support, particularly if IDN TLD adoption is considered to
> > be important for Internet users. I propose the following simple response -
> > your comments are most welcome:
> >
> > *ALAC Statement on the Draft Final Report on Universal Acceptance of IDN
> > TLDs*
> >
> > The ALAC is of the view that the implementation of policies that support
> > the Universal Acceptance of IDNs is crucial for the success and uptake of
> > IDN gTLDs and IDN ccTLDs. We therefore support the recommendations of the
> > JIG in its Final Report on Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs. We urge ICANN
> > to leverage its influence and resources to promote and support the
> > universal acceptance of IDN TLDs broadly as described in the report towards
> > ensuring user access and utilization of IDN TLDs as well as a consistent,
> > predictable and secure user experience.
> > ---- end
> >
> > Comments welcome on the wiki here:
> > https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Draft+Final+Report+on+Universal+Acceptance+of+IDN+TLDs+Workspace?focusedCommentId=41893594#comment-41893594
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Rinalia
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Rinalia Abdul Rahim <
> > rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Members of the At-Large Community and IDN Working Group,
> >>
> >> Your views are kindly requested on the JIG Draft Final Report on Universal
> >> Acceptance of IDN TLDs. Specifically,
> >>
> >> 1. Should the general recommendations of the report be supported?
> >> 2. Are there specific issues of concern within the report that should be
> >> raised?
> >>
> >> If you have views, please share them via the At-Large Policy Development
> >> workspace by 7 July 2013.
> >>
> >> At-Large Policy Development workspace link:
> >>
> >> https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Draft+Final+Report+on+Universal+Acceptance+of+IDN+TLDs+Workspace
> >> *
> >> Informational Resurces*
> >>
> >> Full Report Link:
> >> http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/idn-tld-acceptance-final-25jun13-en.pdf[PDF, 135 KB]
> >>
> >> [Extract on General Recommendations]
> >>
> >> 1. IDN TLD operators (including IDN ccTLD, IDN gTLD and IDN gTLDAccredited Registrars) are recommended to support Universal Acceptance of
> >> IDN TLDs in their own systems. Part of this recommendation is that
> >> ICANN's IDN Guidelines be updated to include provisions for IDN TLDregistries and registrars to support the Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs
> >> within their own systems (i.e. for registration systems and services to
> >> accept name server records, child hosts, contact information with IDN TLDs)
> >> 2. ICANN should allocate specific resources for the advocacy of
> >> Universal Acceptance beyond the development of informational materials and
> >> toolkits.
> >> 3. ICANN should develop of informative reference materials for new IDN
> >> TLDs (including gTLD and ccTLD) to handle issues of Universal
> >> Acceptance
> >> 4. ICANN initiates efforts, lead by staff, with participation from the
> >> community, for further studies to investigate the scope of the issue and
> >> what other services or actions could be taken by ICANN to support the
> >> Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs beyond outreach and awareness campaigns
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Rinalia
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >> Date: Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:32 AM
> >> Subject: [ALAC-Announce] FW: ICANN News Alert -- Draft Final Report on
> >> Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs
> >> To: "alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org" <
> >> alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> >>
> >>
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> >> News Alert
> >>
> >> http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-2-25jun13-en.htm
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> Draft Final Report on Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs
> >>
> >> 25 June 2013
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Forum Announcement: Comment Period Opens on Date: 25 June 2013
> >> Categories/Tags:
> >>
> >> * Top-Level Domains
> >> * Policy Processes
> >> * Transparency/Accountability
> >>
> >>
> >> Purpose (Brief): The joint ccNSO-GNSO IDN working Group (JIG) seeks
> >> input from the community on its draft Final Report on Universal Acceptance
> >> of IDN TLDs. The draft includes recommendations to the ccNSO and GNSO
> >> Councils for further action to resolve policy and other relating to the
> >> universal acceptance of IDN TLDs The Working expects to finalize and
> >> publish its Final Report, and submit their report, after taking into
> >> account the comments received.
> >> Public Comment Box Link:
> >> http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/idn-tld-acceptance-final-25jun13-en.htm
> >>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:03:39 +0800
> From: Pavan Budhrani <pavan at registry.asia>
> To: APRALO <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Subject: [APAC-Discuss] ALS Feedback points
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> Hey there all,
>
> Please check the summary of main findings and suggestions from the Bejing
> meeting.
>
>
> Main points from ALS Feedback
>
>
>
> - Some found the terminology used during meetings a bit hard to catch
> up with, suggest to have some of the acronyms printed for ALS?es next time.
>
> - Some were overwhelmed by the schedule, suggest for future meetings,
> to have a one or two line objective of each meeting so they know what its
> mainly about and the target for those meetings.
>
> - Some wanted time to talk about their ALS, suggest to invite some
> ALS to speak about themselves on the monthly call.
>
> - Fellowship was a great idea, most of them enjoyed that and more of
> these orientation would be good for them.
>
> --
> Pavan Budhrani
> Director of Business Development
> DotAsia Organisation
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 20:05:25 +1200
> From: "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro"
> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>
> To: Pavan Budhrani <pavan at registry.asia>
> Cc: APRALO <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] ALS Feedback points
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> Dear Pavan,
>
> Thank you for this. This is certainly helpful.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Sala
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Pavan Budhrani <pavan at registry.asia> wrote:
>
> > Hey there all,
> >
> > Please check the summary of main findings and suggestions from the Bejing
> > meeting.
> >
> >
> > Main points from ALS Feedback
> >
> >
> >
> > - Some found the terminology used during meetings a bit hard to catch
> > up with, suggest to have some of the acronyms printed for ALS?es next time.
> >
> > - Some were overwhelmed by the schedule, suggest for future meetings,
> > to have a one or two line objective of each meeting so they know what its
> > mainly about and the target for those meetings.
> >
> > - Some wanted time to talk about their ALS, suggest to invite some
> > ALS to speak about themselves on the monthly call.
> >
> > - Fellowship was a great idea, most of them enjoyed that and more of
> > these orientation would be good for them.
> >
> > --
> > Pavan Budhrani
> > Director of Business Development
> > DotAsia Organisation
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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> >
>
>
>
> --
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:33:06 +0800
> From: "Edmon" <edmon at isoc.hk>
> To: "'Satish Babu'" <director at icfoss.in>, "'Rinalia Abdul Rahim'"
> <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>
> Cc: 'apralo' <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'No name'
> <idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'ALAC Working List'
> <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, ec at isoc.my
> Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] At-Large Community Views Requested on
> Draft Final Report on Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs
> Message-ID: <03ea01ce76fe$c7c28d70$5747a850$@hk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Satish,
>
> That is a great question. The scope of the issues are well documented in the UX report: http://www.icann.org/en/resources/idn/variant-tlds/active-ux-21mar13-en.pdf
>
> As more languages consider their IDN Variant policies, we may see other challenges as well, so I am not sure whether it will ever be "complete"... but I think the operational experience already out there and the framework of the UX report should provide us enough to go out to the technical community to alert them about it and then perhaps there might be feedback to prompt more work too...
>
> Edmon
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: apac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-
> > bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Satish Babu
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 4:02 PM
> > To: Rinalia Abdul Rahim
> > Cc: apralo; No name; ALAC Working List; ec at isoc.my
> > Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] At-Large Community Views Requested on Draft
> > Final Report on Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs
> >
> > Hi Rinalia
> > Thanks for the document.
> >
> > Coming from a linguistically diverse country, I fully endorse the
> > recommendations made by the JIG, and also support the position that you
> > have proposed for ALAC.
> >
> > As a programmer, I see several challenges ahead for DNS/website/database
> > administrators in retrofitting IDNs into their Internet applications. I am
> > curious to know if there any remaining technical issues that will need
> > resolution before the Universal Acceptance policy can be reliably rolled
> > out...in particular, are the issues around IDN variants (esp. security related)
> > fully resolved ?
> >
> >
> >
> > satish
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Rinalia Abdul Rahim
> > <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hello, everyone.
> > >
> > > I have not received feedback regarding the 9-page draft final report
> > > from the JIG. My personal opinion is that recommendations of the
> > > report do require At-Large support, particularly if IDN TLD adoption
> > > is considered to be important for Internet users. I propose the
> > > following simple response - your comments are most welcome:
> > >
> > > *ALAC Statement on the Draft Final Report on Universal Acceptance of
> > > IDN
> > > TLDs*
> > >
> > > The ALAC is of the view that the implementation of policies that
> > > support the Universal Acceptance of IDNs is crucial for the success
> > > and uptake of IDN gTLDs and IDN ccTLDs. We therefore support the
> > > recommendations of the JIG in its Final Report on Universal Acceptance
> > > of IDN TLDs. We urge ICANN to leverage its influence and resources to
> > > promote and support the universal acceptance of IDN TLDs broadly as
> > > described in the report towards ensuring user access and utilization
> > > of IDN TLDs as well as a consistent, predictable and secure user experience.
> > > ---- end
> > >
> > > Comments welcome on the wiki here:
> > > https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Draft+Final
> > >
> > +Report+on+Universal+Acceptance+of+IDN+TLDs+Workspace?focusedCom
> > mentId
> > > =41893594#comment-41893594
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Rinalia
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Rinalia Abdul Rahim <
> > > rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dear Members of the At-Large Community and IDN Working Group,
> > >>
> > >> Your views are kindly requested on the JIG Draft Final Report on
> > >> Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs. Specifically,
> > >>
> > >> 1. Should the general recommendations of the report be supported?
> > >> 2. Are there specific issues of concern within the report that should
> > >> be raised?
> > >>
> > >> If you have views, please share them via the At-Large Policy
> > >> Development workspace by 7 July 2013.
> > >>
> > >> At-Large Policy Development workspace link:
> > >>
> > >> https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Draft+Fina
> > >> l+Report+on+Universal+Acceptance+of+IDN+TLDs+Workspace
> > >> *
> > >> Informational Resurces*
> > >>
> > >> Full Report Link:
> > >> http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/idn-tld-acceptance-final-25jun13
> > >> -en.pdf[PDF, 135 KB]
> > >>
> > >> [Extract on General Recommendations]
> > >>
> > >> 1. IDN TLD operators (including IDN ccTLD, IDN gTLD and IDN
> > gTLDAccredited Registrars) are recommended to support Universal
> > Acceptance of
> > >> IDN TLDs in their own systems. Part of this recommendation is that
> > >> ICANN's IDN Guidelines be updated to include provisions for IDN
> > TLDregistries and registrars to support the Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs
> > >> within their own systems (i.e. for registration systems and services to
> > >> accept name server records, child hosts, contact information with IDN
> > TLDs)
> > >> 2. ICANN should allocate specific resources for the advocacy of
> > >> Universal Acceptance beyond the development of informational
> > materials and
> > >> toolkits.
> > >> 3. ICANN should develop of informative reference materials for new
> > IDN
> > >> TLDs (including gTLD and ccTLD) to handle issues of Universal
> > >> Acceptance
> > >> 4. ICANN initiates efforts, lead by staff, with participation from the
> > >> community, for further studies to investigate the scope of the issue and
> > >> what other services or actions could be taken by ICANN to support the
> > >> Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs beyond outreach and awareness
> > >> campaigns
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >> Rinalia
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > >> From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> > >> Date: Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:32 AM
> > >> Subject: [ALAC-Announce] FW: ICANN News Alert -- Draft Final Report
> > >> on Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs
> > >> To: "alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org" <
> > >> alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > [http://www.icann.org/images/gradlogo_bow.jpg]<http://www.icann.org/>
> > >> News Alert
> > >>
> > >> http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-2-
> > 25jun13-en.
> > >> htm
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> Draft Final Report on Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs
> > >>
> > >> 25 June 2013
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Forum Announcement: Comment Period Opens on Date: 25 June 2013
> > >> Categories/Tags:
> > >>
> > >> * Top-Level Domains
> > >> * Policy Processes
> > >> * Transparency/Accountability
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Purpose (Brief): The joint ccNSO-GNSO IDN working Group (JIG) seeks
> > >> input from the community on its draft Final Report on Universal
> > >> Acceptance of IDN TLDs. The draft includes recommendations to the
> > >> ccNSO and GNSO Councils for further action to resolve policy and
> > >> other relating to the universal acceptance of IDN TLDs The Working
> > >> expects to finalize and publish its Final Report, and submit their
> > >> report, after taking into account the comments received.
> > >> Public Comment Box Link:
> > >> http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/idn-tld-acceptance-
> > final-
> > >> 25jun13-en.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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