[APAC-Discuss] Beijing meeting - your input

Fouad Bajwa fouadbajwa at gmail.com
Thu Jan 10 08:49:07 UTC 2013


IMHO, I would actually support the proposal to keep WCIT out of
discussions. Its been over discussed. The real threat posed in our
part of the world is the blocking of Internet content in the name of
religion, national security, war on terror, shutdown of Mobile and
Cellular Internet and Services to prevent terrorism where we have had
nearly  a week of such mobile blocking during the past year across
Pakistan. WCIT proposals, signatories and implications do not directly
affect present policy issues, they may in the far future but at the
moment the issues are very different. We need a divergence away from
the G8 or developed west point of view on Internet related issues. We
have to discuss the strategy for ICANN and its implications for the
Middle East, South Asia, Asia and the Pacific, Australiasia etc. My
reason sometimes for staying silent during such threads is the fact
that we tend to stay away from the real issues asserting a
self-perceived point of view without a real baseline from our
stakeholder countries and regions. Thats also where outreach collapses
and the opportunity to engage and contribute is reduced. We need to
hear from stakeholders what the issues area instead of telling them
what the issues should be. Thats my two cents.

Best

Fouad

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> Hi Holly,
>
> Etsuko Nakanishi, Japan GAC rep was at WCIT.  But she might prefer to
> have someone else from her ministry speak (they might attend if
> invited.)   More important perhaps to hear from government/others who
> supported the new ITRs and would like to see ITU role in governance
> strengthen by WTPF.  Not sure if many of those governments would be
> particularly open about their reasons, or want to get into an
> open-ended debate.  But worth asking China, as meeting hosts.  India
> seem somewhat in the middle.  Perhaps someone from India's telecom
> ministry: Telecom Minister Kapil Sibal seems to have broad view,
> perhaps ministry staff would join, if someone knows how to reach them.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> At 4:49 PM +1100 1/10/13, Holly Raiche wrote:
>>Hi Adam
>>
>>Great idea.  I"m inclined to agree with you.  The thought of having
>>WCIT on the agenda was really to unpack what the outcomes mean for
>>ICANN and the ITU.  But WTPF is probably better.  I"m sure Paul
>>Wilson would talk, Raj will be in Oz late Feb/early March so we can
>>discuss.  Given the ten strong Oz delegation to WCIT, I"m sure at
>>least one or two of them would be in Beijing (certainly Peter
>>Nettlefold who is now GAC VC).  Any further thoughts?
>>
>>Holly
>>On 10/01/2013, at 4:29 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
>>
>>>  (not sending this to apralo-beijing-oc at atlarge-lists.icann.org as I'm
>>>  not a member.)
>>>
>>>  Good proposal, however, I wouldn't discuss WCIT.  It's over, there
>>>  will be implications, but they will be hard to divine and will involve
>>>  a lot of guesswork.  Not sure of the value.
>>>
>>>  More relevant is the next ITU process, WTPF (World Telecommunication
>>>  Policy Forum <http://www.itu.int/en/wtpf-13/Pages/default.aspx>)  The
>>>  theme of the meeting is "International Internet-related public policy
>>>  matters".  It will be held May 14-16, so there is a chance to
>>>  influence people attending (ICANN will for sure, as will APNIC, many
>>>  of the ccTLDs, ISOC etc.)
>>>
>>>  WTPF will "discuss all Internet-related public policy issues raised in
>>>  Resolutions 101, 102 and 133 (Rev. Guadalajara, 2010)"
>>>
>>>  Resolution 101 Internet Protocol-based networks
>>>  Resolution 102 ITU's role with regard to international public policy
>>>  issues pertaining to the Internet and the management of Internet
>>>  resources, including domain names and addresses
>>>  Resolution 133 Role of administrations of Member States in the
>>>  management of internationalized (multilingual) domain names
>>>
>>>  each attached.
>>>
>>>  Having IDNs on the WTPF agenda makes it even more relevant (agneda item 3.)
>>>
>>>  There will be carry-over from WCIT (expect the resolution on Internet
>>>  particularly) to WTPF.
>>>
>>>  People to invite: APNIC (Paul Wilson, Pablo Hinojosa) and ISOC (Raj
>>>  Singh, Constance Bommelaer, Markus Kummer).  Look around for
>>>  government reps:  Australia takes regional leadership as does Japan.
>>>  China and India will have opinions.
>>>
>>>  Best,
>>>
>>>  Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Holly Raiche
>>><h.raiche at internode.on.net> wrote:
>>>>  Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>>  The APRALO Beijing Events Organizing Committee seeks your input
>>>>on possible topics for a Multistakeholder Policy Roundtable in
>>>>conjunction with the April 2013 ICANN Meeting in Beijing.
>>>>
>>>>  The criteria for the policy topics are as follows: (1) highly
>>>>relevant and important to the region and ICANN; (2) require
>>>>multistakeholder engagement to address.  For each topic proposed,
>>>>please provide recommendations on relevant discussion leaders.
>>>>These discussion leaders should be knowledgeable about the topic/s
>>>>and respected regionally or globally.  We would like to have
>>>>discussion leaders from a broad range of stakeholder groups (i.e.,
>>>>government and inter-governmental, business, non-profit/NGO, and
>>>>end user).
>>>>
>>>>  Possible topics include:
>>>>
>>>>  Implications of the World Conference on International
>>>>Telecommunications (WCIT) for the Internet and the
>>>>Multistakeholder Model;
>>  >> New gTLDs and Implications for the Asia-Pacific and Australasia Region;
>>>>  Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) and Implications for the
>>>>Asia-Pacific and Australasia Region.
>>>>  Please do send us your suggestions and ideas (or your support for
>>>>any of the above with list of recommended discussion leaders) by
>>>>Jan 15, 2013.
>>>>
>>>>  Thank you!
>>>>
>>>>  Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>  The APRALO Beijing Events Organizing Committee:
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>  <Guadalajara RESOLUTION_101.pdf><Guadalajara
>>>RESOLUTION_102.pdf><Guadalajara RESOLUTION_133.pdf>
>
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