[APAC-Discuss] The correct link to doodle
Siranush Vardanyan
siranush_vardanyan at hotmail.com
Thu Dec 5 15:04:41 UTC 2013
http://doodle.com/zgfdhcgwqeqyyx22
Here is the correct space for doodle poll for monthly call.
Best
Siranush
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> 1. Reminder: Doodle for Monthly call time and day
> (Siranush Vardanyan)
> 2. Re: METRICS (Cheryl Langdon-Orr)
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> Dear APRALO colleagues,
> This is a reminder for all those who didn't complete the doodle poll to do is ASAP, as we need to identify the most convenient time for our December monthly call.
> The link is here: http://doodle.com/zgfdhcgwqeqyyx22If the mentioned time slots are not convenient, please, complete it anyway, for us to identify for how many people those slots are not workable.Thanks a lot for your cooperation.SiranushSiranush VardanyanAPRALO Acting Chair
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> > Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 12:00:05 +0000
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> > 1. DOODLE POLL / APRALO monthly meetings (ICANN At-Large Staff)
> > 2. Re: New ALS Application received (Winthrop Yu)
> > 3. Re: New ALS Application received (Maureen Hilyard)
> > 4. REMINDER: Meeting Invitation: APRALO Singapore Showcase OC on
> > Wednesday 4th December at 06:00 UTC (ICANN At-Large Staff)
> >
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:57:26 -0800
> > From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> > To: APRALO m <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> > Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> > Subject: [APAC-Discuss] DOODLE POLL / APRALO monthly meetings
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> > Dear all,
> >
> > Due to challenging time and date for the APRALO Monthly meeting, please be so kind as to complete the doodle poll in order to identify a convenient time for the region: http://doodle.com/zgfdhcgwqeqyyx22
> >
> > As a reminder, please note that the APRALO monthly meetings are scheduled to occur the 4th Tuesday of the month at 0500 UTC.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Regards,
> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Julia Charvolen
> >
> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> >
> > E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>>
> > Date: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:48 AM
> > To: APRALO m <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
> > Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>>
> > Subject: Meeting invitation/ APRALO Monthly December meeting - 18 December at 0600 UTC
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Due to the holiday season, the December APRALO teleconference is scheduled for Wednesday 18 December 2013 at 0600 UTC.
> >
> > For other times:
> > http://tinyurl.com/kw5cv3d
> >
> >
> > The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at:
> >
> > https://community.icann.org/x/3CmfAg
> >
> >
> > Adobe Connect Room:
> >
> > http://icann.adobeconnect.com/apralo
> >
> >
> >
> > APRALO wiki workspace:
> > https://community.icann.org/x/4ZMi
> >
> >
> > If you are unable to attend the call please send an email indicating your absence and we will note this information on the agenda. If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>.
> >
> > If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at:staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>.
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Regards,
> >
> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Julia Charvolen
> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> > E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >
> > One World, One Internet
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 05:24:23 +0800
> > From: Winthrop Yu <w.yu at gmx.net>
> > To: "apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org"
> > <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> > Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] New ALS Application received
> > Message-ID: <529E4C07.8090603 at gmx.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > Noting "typo" in Description Sec. 1b on page 2 -- "Membership is open for
> > any residing individual and organizations in *Malaysia*"
> >
> > Otherwise (y)
> >
> > WYn
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/4/2013 12:53 AM, ICANN At-Large Staff wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > This is to inform you that we received an ALS application from Internet Society Bangladesh Dakha Chapter. It is based in Dhaka, Bangladesh and would be a member of APRALO if accepted.
> > >
> > > Please find the application form attached. Staff are preparing the Due Diligence.
> > >
> > > -- --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Julia Charvolen
> > > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> > > Email: staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > APAC-Discuss mailing list
> > > APAC-Discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
> > >
> > > Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 11:52:36 -1000
> > From: "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard at oyster.net.ck>
> > To: "'Winthrop Yu'" <w.yu at gmx.net>,
> > <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> > Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] New ALS Application received
> > Message-ID: <009101cef071$fe2129c0$fa637d40$@oyster.net.ck>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Good spotting, Winthrop.
> >
> > Jahangir is an active participant in AP Chapter activities and I believe
> > would just as actively promote ICANN issues. So yes.
> >
> > Maureen
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: apac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Winthrop
> > Yu
> > Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2013 11:24 a.m.
> > To: apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] New ALS Application received
> >
> > Noting "typo" in Description Sec. 1b on page 2 -- "Membership is open
> > for any residing individual and organizations in *Malaysia*"
> >
> > Otherwise (y)
> >
> > WYn
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/4/2013 12:53 AM, ICANN At-Large Staff wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > This is to inform you that we received an ALS application from Internet
> > Society Bangladesh Dakha Chapter. It is based in Dhaka, Bangladesh and
> > would be a member of APRALO if accepted.
> > >
> > > Please find the application form attached. Staff are preparing the Due
> > Diligence.
> > >
> > > -- --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
> > > Peregrine and Julia Charvolen ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> > > Email: staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > APAC-Discuss mailing list
> > > APAC-Discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
> > >
> > > Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > APAC-Discuss mailing list
> > APAC-Discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
> >
> > Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 13:59:07 -0800
> > From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> > To: "apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org"
> > <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> > Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> > Subject: [APAC-Discuss] REMINDER: Meeting Invitation: APRALO Singapore
> > Showcase OC on Wednesday 4th December at 06:00 UTC
> > Message-ID:
> > <BDBCC21442A22640A4ECE2C75A8E215AC385281175 at EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org>
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > The first APRALO Singapore Showcase OC meeting is scheduled for Wednesday 4th December 2013 at 0600 UTC.
> >
> > For other times:
> > http://tinyurl.com/njy6x7s
> >
> > Agenda (to be created) and call details can be found :
> > https://community.icann.org/x/LSmfAg
> >
> > Adobe Connect:
> > http://icann.adobeconnect.com/apralo
> >
> > Conference ID 1638
> > http://adigo.com/icann/
> >
> >
> > If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff with your preferred number at: staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Regards,
> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Julia Charvolen
> >
> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> >
> > E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
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> > End of APAC-Discuss Digest, Vol 85, Issue 5
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 01:34:08 +1100
> From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com>
> To: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>
> Cc: APRALO <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, METRICS
> <metrics.sc at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] METRICS
> Message-ID:
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> Fouad
>
> On the matter of the specifics of Individual Membership in RALO's... This
> is of course a clearly identified OBJECTIVE for all RALO's since its
> identification as a recommendation fron the ALAC Review, and is NOT an idea
> dismissed by any RALO I trust as it "just has to happen where it has not
> already"....
>
> That said this issue has been identified as one of several amendment to
> Rules matters for the current APRALO Rules Review, so resending your
> "paperwork on policy reform in the APRALO articles" to that RALO WG will be
> verynvaluable indeed... thanks
>
> Regarding your comment on "silence" etc., from an APRALO POV =>hmmm as a
> serving Leader of the RALO (you are a Vice Chair after all) YOU are, I
> would have thought one perfectly positioned to ensure this does not/did not
> happen... However PLEASE bring this up when you next attend one of the
> APRALO Meetings... It is a matter that clearly needs addressing...
> On Nov 29, 2013 3:17 AM, "Fouad Bajwa" <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I believe one of the most important metrics component should be built
> > on the fact that if a member suggests something, how many of those
> > suggestions were actually accepted and incorporated into the system.
> >
> > One small example is that I've proposed individual membership in the
> > past during 2010, created the paperwork suggesting the policy reform
> > in the APRALO articles, presented it and then silence. This would have
> > enhanced participation, inclusion of more productive talent and people
> > that are sensitive about ICANN and IG related issues. Such talent thus
> > has to move under a narrower scope into the ncuc/ncsg and APRALO loses
> > out.
> >
> > Somehow the belief that only groups can represent the rights of the
> > users is a fantasy. For example, in the technical community and most
> > in ISOC circles, most of the members in a recognized ALS are not
> > actually CS or information rights activists but people with corporate
> > day jobs and of companies that actually should fall under contracted
> > parties ac/oc's in ICANN.
> >
> > The value that comes into such an organizational system are actually
> > the members, the system itself cannot come up with ideas and transform
> > the ideas into workable actions.
> >
> > Participation collapses when member ideas are not viewed as valuable
> > input and organizations that don't believe in agility to change and
> > adapt to round the clock innovation and improvements basically fall
> > short on rationality for existence and support in the future.
> >
> > If the participation in meetings and tele-cons are an evaluative
> > criteria for calculating value for money, something is seriously wrong
> > with ICANN and the people who are attempting to address such issues by
> > adopting such a weak and lame course of action.
> >
> > KPIs are measured against activities and participation in telecons and
> > meetings are not such an input or expected outcome.
> >
> > The indicators can be established on a the basis of number of members
> > present and number of comments, suggestions and recommendations
> > received during any calls/meetings and the actions were taken on them.
> > The second level would be number of policy comments requested by ICANN
> > and the number of members that voted on them, the time taken to make
> > comments or recommendations, total number of policy requests for
> > comments and number of comments made to policy requests.
> >
> > Its actually a very simple and straightforward thing. List down all
> > the things that ALAC and its members do. Against those activities a
> > scorecard can be developed and benchmarked against other AC/OC work.
> >
> > I'll think more about this.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Rinalia Abdul Rahim
> > <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hello everyone.
> > >
> > > I like Ali's input on metrics about leadership of Working Groups for ALAC
> > > members. I would also suggest co-chairing of WG between an ALAC Member
> > and
> > > an At-Large community member. This will help build collaborative skills
> > and
> > > capacity along the way.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Rinalia
> > > On Nov 27, 2013 11:17 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard at oyster.net.ck>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thank you Ali. This breadth of feedback is very much appreciated.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Maureen
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: Ali AlMeshal [mailto:dralialmeshal at gmail.com]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2013 12:45 a.m.
> > >> To: Maureen Hilyard
> > >> Cc: Karaitiana Taiuru; APRALO; METRICS
> > >> Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] METRICS
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Good day Maureen,
> > >>
> > >> First of all we have always to but in mind as your correctly stated
> > that
> > >> this is a volunteer work from the members, but on the other hand I do
> > agree
> > >> that up to certain extent there should be a fair KPI?s in place to
> > evaluate
> > >> the performance of ALAC members.
> > >>
> > >> Also I am quite sure that selected or nominated ALAC members for these
> > >> leadership positions were based on their knowledge , commitment and
> > >> experience as well as high performance otherwise they will not be part
> > of
> > >> the team.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hence measuring criteria would always be much clearer and effective
> > if
> > >> it
> > >> is set for Quantitative factors rather than Qualitative once.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> So having said that then I would like to address the following:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> o Attending meetings by it self is not a goal or objective therefore
> > it
> > >> can not be part of the measuring criteria independently.
> > >>
> > >> o Also participation and contribution to the meeting discussion can
> > not
> > >> be
> > >> evaluated as a performance measure
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thereafter to have a process in place that gives an indication of the
> > >> member performance I would suggest the following
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> o ALAC members should be assigned to Chair a WG?s
> > >>
> > >> ? With this type of assignment the member will logically be accountable
> > >> and
> > >> responsible of a set deliverables that he/she have to achieve, and this
> > >> can
> > >> be measured and evaluated for the following set of KPI?s
> > >>
> > >> ? Time to deliver
> > >>
> > >> ? Commitment
> > >>
> > >> ? Team working
> > >>
> > >> ? Developing others (member of the group)
> > >>
> > >> ? Others
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> o ALAC members and chair of RALO?s jointly should be responsible for
> > >> engaging the ALS?s in work and activities related to the rejoin at least
> > >> and
> > >> should provide a monthly call report on this.
> > >>
> > >> ? This is different activity from the RALO monthly call; this should be
> > >> done separately to reach out the ALS?s through a pre-plan agenda and
> > time
> > >> frame.
> > >>
> > >> ? The objective is to get in touch with ALS?s members outside the
> > >> official
> > >> call and tries to understand their needs and requirements and also will
> > be
> > >> a
> > >> good tool maybe to get them engage in if they are not active. So this is
> > >> more of OUTREACH on a small scale and more of direct communication.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Should you need any clarification then please let me know by email or a
> > >> call, I will be more than happy to discuss.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Maureen Hilyard <hilyard at oyster.net.ck
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thank you KT for your comments and suggestions. These are all very
> > helpful.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >> Maureen
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: apac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > >> [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
> > >>
> > >> Karaitiana Taiuru
> > >> Sent: Monday, 25 November 2013 12:12 p.m.
> > >> To: 'APRALO'
> > >> Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] METRICS
> > >>
> > >> These are my thoughts based on not been an ALAC member (nor do I have
> > time
> > >> to).
> > >>
> > >> I would support a more closer monitoring approach to the ALAC
> > performance
> > >> review and would like to see the evaluations distributed to the relevant
> > >> RALO's as we are the ones who nominate and put our trust in our
> > >> representatives to provide our views and then to report back to us.
> > >>
> > >> I would expect that participation in all meetings, emails and Work
> > Groups
> > >> would be at the very minimum 90%. There are so many issues at present it
> > >> would be hard not to have a voice at a meeting.
> > >>
> > >> Saying this, I would also expect that any new ALAC appointments are
> > >> mentored
> > >> and giving an appropriate transition period and were made to feel
> > >> comfortable to ask for help. Some cultural and language barriers may
> > also
> > >> exist and should be considered.
> > >>
> > >> If people are under-performing, then perhaps a mechanism of someone
> > talking
> > >> to them in a non threating manner to see if there is any assistance
> > >> required
> > >> etc.
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps too, some way of recognition for the long hours and dedication
> > may
> > >> also be a motivation. This is likely to be more of a RALO initiative
> > >> though.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: apac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > >> [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
> > Maureen
> > >> Hilyard
> > >> Sent: Sunday, 24 November 2013 5:52 p.m.
> > >> To: APRALO
> > >> Subject: [APAC-Discuss] METRICS
> > >>
> > >> APRALO colleagues
> > >>
> > >> As Siranush had informed you already, I am on a working group (headed by
> > >> Cheryl Langdon-Orr) that is looking at measuring the performance of
> > ALAC
> > >> members (as expected in the ALAC Rules of Procedure). We are later to be
> > >> looking at ALSes and RALOs.
> > >>
> > >> It is an extremely difficult thing to do when:
> > >> * the people in these positions are volunteers who have offered to do
> > this
> > >> work out of the goodness of their hearts - how do you measure their
> > >> contribution to a task that has been set?
> > >> * the Board and Management are becoming more vocal about getting value
> > for
> > >> money spent within the system - it costs a lot of money to bring the
> > >> committees of the ICANN system together for each meeting. three times a
> > >> year. They rightfully want to know that they are getting their money's
> > >> worth.
> > >> * it is very difficult to ascertain what METRICS are appropriate to
> > measure
> > >> each particular type of performance (attendance? contribution? value of
> > >> contribution? others?)
> > >>
> > >> As ALSes you elect your APRALO representatives on the ALAC (me and
> > Holly)
> > >> and although Raf has been appointed to the ALAC as and APRALO NOMCOM
> > >> candidate - the expectations should be the same.
> > >>
> > >> Therefore I'd really like to hear not only about WHAT performance
> > criteria
> > >> should be evaluated but also HOW it might be appropriately measured. I
> > >> would
> > >> like to use the advice of the ALSes to put together an evaluative
> > process
> > >> which could help us evaluate all the groups we have been tasked to
> > >> evaluate.
> > >>
> > >> This is what we are looking at, at the moment:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Do ALAC members attend all the meetings they should? Some attend the
> > >> face to face meetings, but not the online meetings. ICANN is not
> > looking at
> > >> these candidates very favourably.
> > >>
> > >> 2. Do ALAC members who attend the meetings actually contribute anything
> > to
> > >> the meetings? Some attend meetings but they don't say anything - what
> > value
> > >> do they give? Some log into teleconference meetings, but because they
> > don't
> > >> contribute anything, it is difficult to know whether they actually
> > >> listening?)
> > >>
> > >> 3. Do ALAC members participate on working groups? We have lots of
> > members
> > >> who volunteer for a working group, and never turn up for meetings to do
> > the
> > >> work. Its the same people every time doing the work .
> > >>
> > >> There may be other questions you may want to ask. Please do...
> > >>
> > >> Very importantly, HOW can we more effectively evaluate performance -
> > what
> > >> do
> > >> you use in your workplace?
> > >>
> > >> Let me know.. I'd love to hear from you.
> > >>
> > >> Maureen
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> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> Ali AlMeshal
> > >>
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> > >>
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> > >>
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> > >>
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> > --------------------------
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