[APAC-Discuss] response to IDN ccTLD Fast Track review

Mon Jan 31 04:18:10 UTC 2011

Dear Hong and Edmon,

For this one, because of the time constraint, let us circulate it for 48
hours (in this list) and see if we have any useful feedback, and if no
objection, then we send in the comments??

Thanks!
Charles

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Edmon, for drafting and updating the comments. Charles, could the
> comment now be put into the APRALO policy-development process for review
> and
> formal endorsement?
>
> Hong
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Edmon <edmon at isoc.hk> wrote:
>
> > based on the received feedback please find an updated version of the
> > comment attached.
> >
> > I have asked for a couple more days to send in our comment.  Would like
> to
> > finalize and send out then.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2 main updates:
> >
> > 1. clarified that best current practice is for Chinese IDN
> >
> > 2. clarified issue on visual similarity
> >
> >
> >
> > Edmon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Edmon [mailto:edmon at isoc.hk]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM
> > *To:* 'Hong Xue'
> > *Cc:* 'APRALO'
> > *Subject:* RE: [APAC-Discuss] response to IDN ccTLD Fast Track review
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Hong,
> >
> >
> >
> > 3. was actually in response to the ".bulgaria" issue.  Sometimes, within
> > context, visual similarity does not mean actually causing confusion.  So,
> I
> > am saying actually the opposite... before an application is rejected
> simply
> > because of visual similarity, other aspects need to be considered within
> the
> > context of IDN.  For example, 2 chinese characters may look alike to
> > non-chinese speaking people, but for chinese speakers (within context)
> they
> > could be clearly distinguished.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2. I had want for it to mean that it is the best approach for Chinese IDN
> > TLDs.  Perhaps should make it more clear.
> >
> >
> >
> > Edmon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Hong Xue [mailto:hongxueipr at gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:41 PM
> > *To:* Edmon
> > *Cc:* APRALO
> > *Subject:* Re: [APAC-Discuss] response to IDN ccTLD Fast Track review
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Edmon,
> >
> > Many thanks for promptly drafting the document. I've some quick comments
> > for your reference.
> >
> > *3. The issue of visual similarity of IDN TLDs is not a good measurement
> > of confusing similarity.  The new gTLD process should avoid the repeating
> of
> > such mistake.*
> >
> >
> > Could you kindly elaborate this? Do you believe measurement of confusing
> > similarity should be extended to aural or meaning?
> >
> > *2. The implementation of IDN Variant TLDs at the root for Chinese IDN
> > TLDs has proven to be successful.  The same implementation, more
> > specifically, concurrent NS delegations for the Primary and Preferred IDN
> > Variant TLD strings, is the appropriate technical implementation for
> Chinese
> > IDN TLDs, compliant with CDNC (Chinese Domain Names Consortium)
> > recommendations, and is the current best approach to maintain the
> security
> > and stability of the Internet.*
> >
> >
> >
> > Indeed Chinese Community has developed mature implementation measures for
> > variant management. I fully agree what you state
> >
> > "Future applications for Chinese IDN TLDs with IDN Variants should follow
> a
> > similar approach in terms of technical implementation at the root."
> However,
> > ALAC had made statement that Chinese experience may not be generalized
> and
> > its variant management may not be applicable to other scripts, such as
> > Arabic. So it is a bit interesting to state it "is the current best
> > approach", although it is no doubt the best for Chinese character set.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> >
> > Hong
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Edmon <edmon at isoc.hk> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > As discussed on our monthly call yesterday, please find attached a draft
> > for our response to the IDN ccTLD Fast Track review (
> > http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-22oct10-en.htm).
> >
> > Hong / Charles / Cheryl, please help shepherd the document perhaps also
> > through our WG model at the IDN WG...
> >
> > In any case, please provide your comments asap, we will try to take all
> the
> > comments received by Jan 29 (Saturday), turn around a final version by
> Jan
> > 30 (Sunday) for final circulation, and then submit our comments in at the
> > end of Jan 31 in time before the close of the public comment period.
> >
> > Edmon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Hong Xue
> > Professor of Law
> > Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL)
> > Beijing Normal University
> > http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/>
> > 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street
> > Beijing 100875 China
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Hong Xue
> Professor of Law
> Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL)
> Beijing Normal University
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