[APAC-Discuss] [ALAC-Internal] ALS Application: Netmission.ASIA

Wed Apr 6 00:22:54 UTC 2011

Dear Cheryl and all,

Thank you for sharing this in much detail as it adds to my knowledge
as well about how the due diligence works. I believe it is crucial to
note here that if the process got involved in checking with each
individual their background, that would be first an invasion on one's
privacy and secondly it would become a hassle for such a process to
fulfill what it is objectively designed and structured to do.

I want to take a brief moment here to explain how I look at
applications for joining ALAC through APRALO:

As far as Net Mission application is concerned I believe that since
Siva was part of the ICANN fellowship program and there were "adopted
fellows" this time from Net Mission in the San Francisco meeting, and
I was able to attend most of those fellowship meetings as well as
Olivier, the two participants from Net Mission did share quite some
information during my interactions. I got to meet the group during the
IGF in Lithuania as well. Its important to note that these young
participants have found their path in ICANN through ALAC and APRALO.

Another thing to note is that Net Mission Ambassadors are very vocal,
transparent and public. Two members participated in the APRALO meeting
and I believe Siva took the kind liberty of introducing them in the
meeting. One of the ambassador, Michelle Qin has also blogged about
her experience at
http://join.ust.hk/blog/michelle-qin/40th-icann-conference-san-francisco.
Interesting when we do a search with the names provided in the
application such as Richard Cheng the following information pops up
http://icannwiki.com/index.php/Richard_Cheng.

Each member listed in the application displays significant
participation within ICANN or IGF processes such as Bianca Ho was
participating in the IGF and this the workshop officially approved and
delivered: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/chronocontact/?chronoformname=WSProposals2010View&wspid=75
If any of our members would like more proof, Net Mission's annual
report is a very good evidence of what all these members do:
http://www.ycig.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/NM-annual-report-2009-10-eng-web.pdf.
In fact each member in that list has details on the web and if I
wander to Yvonne Lee, search returns
http://sites.google.com/site/yvonneseportfoliobackup/page. These
members appear in very good standing, active and I would like to hear
their young point of views on Internet user related issues.

Personally speaking, checking on every member of a given ALS
application would cause a breach of privacy and on an my own personal
individual basis I would not support such a practice neither encourage
it within APRALO though consensus is a separate subject.

Maybe such would be otherwise if we initiated the inclusion of
individual membership in the future because then an individual would
have to go through due diligence. I still have to seek guidance from
Cheryl and Olivier in this matter on how to structure such an option
in my proposal to APRALO in the near future.

I look forward to Net Mission's application receiving due diligence
and it would indeed be a pleasure to meet up with these young leaders
again in our interactions during the Singapore meeting.

Take care all.

-- 
Regards.
--------------------------
Fouad Bajwa

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Siva  what goes into being an ALS application form for ICANN is  decided
> by ALAC and approved / negotiated with ICANN (usually Legal advise the Board
> on this)  and ALAC go through considerable work with ICANN Legal  on
> ramifications, purpose and effect of any such changes to ALS application
> forms and the processes associated with them...
>
> FYI  the last major overhaul of this system and forms  started in 2007 at
> the LA Meeting  and was completed in 2008... and was in part responding to a
> matter of complaint (against ALAC) that had been dealt with by the then
> ICANN Ombudsman... and it is from his recommendations  that we also strive
> so carefully to review ALS applications in such a timely manner and have in
> the public record the status and progression of received applications.
>
> So if a Region (such as APRALO)  believe  changes  to or additional
> information is desirable to assist in the role that the RALO Officers have
> in conducting their part in the Regional Advice on an ALS applicant
>  (which is done after the Due Diligence phase), then the way to get this to
> happen is to request the RALO  to have these suggestions and
> the rational etc.,  for them  brought  forward  to the ALAC and to request a
> process of ALS application form (and possible processing standards etc.,)
>  set for a formal review...
>
> Do let me know if I can assist APRALO with doing any of that...
>
> Cheryl Langdon-Orr
> (CLO)
>
>
>
> On 6 April 2011 03:07, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> Could there be a section in the ALS application form the applicant to
>> furnish a list of members, each listed with some basic particulars as their
>> profession, the name of the organization they belong to, their position and
>> contact information? That would give us an idea about the diversity of the
>> member base of the proposed ALS.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> Sivasubramanian M
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Marilyn,
>> >
>> > Thank you for the update on the application submission by Net Mission.
>> > We look forward to the due diligence completion and are positive about
>> > Net Mission Hong Kong's possible participation in APRALO.
>> >
>> > Best
>> >
>> > Fouad
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Marilyn Vernon <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Dear all,
>> > >
>> > > This is to inform you that we received an ALS application from
>> > > Netmission.ASIA. It is based in Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong and would be a
>> > > member of APRALO if accepted.
>> > >
>> > > Please find the application form attached. The regional liaison for
>> Asia
>> > > Pacific has been informed and will provide us with due diligence for
>> this
>> > > application in due course.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Heidi Ullrich, Gisella Gruber-White, Seth Greene, Marilyn Vernon
>> > > ICANN At-Large Staff
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________