[ALAC] ALAC-NCUC

[William Drake]

Hi,

FWIW, NCUC comprises 167 members from 53 different countries,  
including 80 noncommercial organizations and 87 individuals.  One of  
those individuals is Milton.  Anyone who has a gripe against someone  
else that cannot be ameliorated with soju and conversation is of  
course welcome to come but avoid them, or to take a pass.  I wasn't  
suggesting mandatory bilaterals that will cause stress to anyone  
(although I would note that offline interactions with certain personas  
are generally far more congenial and productive, should one be  
inclined toward finding common ground, or at least mutual  
understanding).   Bottom line, the same conversations are happening  
and the same concerns are being expressed in both communities, and  
balkanization based on past interpersonal difficulties is utterly self  
defeating to public interest representation in ICANN.  Simply getting  
to know each other a bit better is rather small and easy step to take,  
there's no other agenda than that.

Alan says ALAC usually has a dinner on Thursday and this shouldn't be  
at the expense of that, so I guess let's try Monday after the IDN  
ccTLD fast track reception.  The path of least resistance would  
probably be to simply gather in the lobby at 8pm and then head off  
somewhere, we can ask the concierge for suggestions based on the body  
count.  Given the responses here I'm guessing maybe 10-20 ALACers and  
would expect a similar number of NCUCers, unless the reception etc  
proves centrifugal.

My mobile is +41 78 635 4888 if someone fails to make the connection  
and wants to join later wherever we end up.

Cheers,

Bill



On Oct 15, 2009, at 11:46 PM, carlos aguirre wrote:

> Dear all:
>
> I really do not understand.
>
> A few days ago MM was the "enemy", who said worse things about us,  
> who insulted  two lasts liaisons. But .... suddenly the situation  
> became pink colour.
>
> I´m sorry, but when somebody insult me, I expect, al least, an  
> apologize.
>
> After that, and depending of insult level, I decide if the relation  
> follow.
>
> In my opinion the situation deserve another response.
> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
>
> abogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -
> *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423
> www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar
> http://ar.ageiadensi.org
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:22:22 -0400
> > From: beaubrendler at earthlink.net
> > To: william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch
> > CC: alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org; at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > Subject: Re: [ALAC] ALAC-NCUC
> >
> > I will check the ALAC schedule. We usually do not have evening  
> events.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: William Drake <william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch>
> > >Sent: Oct 15, 2009 10:37 AM
> > >To: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler at earthlink.net>
> > >Cc: investigaciones at densi.com.ar, James Seng <james at seng.sg>,  
> ALAC Working List <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, At-Large Worldwide  
> <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [ALAC] ALAC-NCUC
> > >
> > >Hi Beau, et al,
> > >
> > >On Oct 15, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Beau Brendler wrote:
> > >
> > >> Last week, at the ISOC-NY event with Danny Younger, Milton  
> Mueller
> > >> and me, more than one person in attendance from ISOC encouraged  
> us
> > >> to put aside our differences and work to a solution on behalf of
> > >> users. Milton's presentation was very clear and well-received.  
> So as
> > >> an elected member of at-large, I see it as a responsibility to do
> > >> what the voters ask. Would be glad to have a drink. Korean  
> shoju is
> > >> particularly excellent for breaking the ice, and I've never had a
> > >> hangover from it yet.
> > >
> > >Then you plainly have not drunk enough of it, the stuff can be
> > >suitably lethal when taken in immoderation.
> > >
> > >As Olivier points out, it appears there's an IDN, ccTLD fast track
> > >reception Monday night, and I am loath to ask people to skip free
> > >libation and carousing. We could just gather in the lobby  
> afterwards
> > >and head off somewhere to eat (concierge can recommend), although  
> we
> > >need to clarify when that would be---the online schedule says it  
> ends
> > >at 20:00, but the GNSO schedule received this morning from staff  
> says
> > >20:30.
> > >
> > >Alternatively, Thursday night seems open at the moment...not to
> > >complicate things, but does ALAC have anything then, and if not  
> would
> > >this be preferable?
> > >
> > >Either way, I'm glad to hear people are interested. Let's figure  
> out
> > >when and then I'll write to NCUC, rather than having two date
> > >discussions running in parallel.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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William J. Drake
Senior Associate
Centre for International Governance
Graduate Institute of International and
  Development Studies
Geneva, Switzerland
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