[ALAC] Draft Agenda for ALAC ExCom meeting of 15th July

Wed Jul 15 12:27:32 CDT 2009

I agreed with Carlos then and still do it now

José Ovidio Salgueiro A.
salgueiro.jo at gmail.com 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
[mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de carlos aguirre
Enviado el: martes, 14 de julio de 2009 11:34 a.m.
Para: Evan Leibovitch; At-Large Staff
CC: 'ALAC-excom at atlarge-lists.icann.org'; lista publica de ALAC
Asunto: Re: [ALAC] Draft Agenda for ALAC ExCom meeting of 15th July

Dear Evan: A lot of time before the events happened, I said this . The "de
facto" Ex Comm is much more dangerous than the inactivity. Ex Comm  have to
work only when the situations need a fast solution, not in other moments.
ALAC is a body; Not two differents things, where we have a select group of
illuminated, and other which see the train pass only. When I said my
possition against the creation of Ex Comm, I was talking about that.  And
unfortunatly I had reason.

Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
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> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:34:46 -0400
> From: evan at telly.org
> To: staff at atlarge.icann.org
> CC: alac-excom at atlarge-lists.icann.org; alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [ALAC] Draft Agenda for ALAC ExCom meeting of 15th July
> 
> 
> https://st.icann.org/alac-excomm/index.cgi?15_july_2009
> 
> Once upon a time the rationale given for the existence of the Executive
> Committee was that occasionally ALAC was required to move faster than
> was, and that a small group of five could handle issues of critical
> timeliness more easily than the whole group of 15.
> 
> Fair enough.
> 
> In December mailing list discussions it was revealed that the ExecComm
> was going to take on certain additional administrative functions that
> could (and should) have just as easily been delegated to a conventional
> working group.
> 
> Under any situation of normalcy, there would be an ALAC administrative
> working group, open to all interested people just like all other working
> groups are right now. Just like topic-driven WGs draft policy
> recommendations (to be approved by At-Large), so too would a admin WG
> draft propose changes to matters of internal operation. It would have an
> ALAC liaision who would raise its issues to the whole group.
> 
> Instead we have a self-selected group, that (unlike any other WG or
> subcommittee) shuts out non-ALAC members.
> 
> Such a closed culture leads to undesirable outcomes, such as the wording
> of the agenda item regarding two draft documents regarding ALAC job
> descriptions and the method to select the ALAC Board Liaison:
> /
> "Decision Required: Whether or not these items shall be proposed to the
> full ALAC (as amended if required)"/
> 
> Such wording infers that the option exists to NOT bring these issues to
> ALAC. I can only dream about whether or when the opportunity to debate
> such issues will trickle down to the RALOs and ALSs.
> 
> The non-emergency operation of the Executive Committee continues to
> serve as prima facie evidence of deep ALAC dysfunction, a continued
> effort to shut out non-ALAC participation in important matters while so
> much of ALAC is not pulling its weight. I propose that the non-emergency
> functions of the ExecComm be immediately revoked and charged to a
> conventional ALAC Administrative Working Group (that would be chaired by
> the ALAC Secretary, and involve participation by RALO secretariats and
> anyone else from At-Large who is interested).
> 
> - Evan
> 
> PS: I also ask that links to the existing ALAC Working Groups be listed
> at http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/ Right now they're almost impossible
> to find by a casual user (http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/issues is
> badly organized, non-intuitively named, and not pointed to from the main
> ALAC web page). Come to think of it, the who At-Large corner of the
> ICANN website needs an overhaul, but that's a different issue.
> 
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