[ALAC] [ALAC-Internal] [IDN-WG] Draft Statement on IDN Fast Track Proposal v3
Mohamed El Bashir
mbashir at mbash.net
Sat Jul 11 06:00:48 CDT 2009
As i have posted my comments in the Wiki, i think this statement is very
long and could be summarized, specially the point of the IDN ccTLD ICANN
processing cost.
I don't think it captured the comments done myself or others in the wiki.
Regards,
Mohamed
Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
> Staff should prepare the vote to go as based on the ORIGINAL version that
> was out for internal comment i.e. WITHOUT the "With the view to
> expeditiously complete the IDN related tasks, it is
> proposed that ICANN incorporates in its agenda for the Seoul meeting a full
> day of meetings to focus on IDNs, scheduled as inter-constituency meetings
> attended by invited experts, staff and finance committees to resolve all
> pending issues related to IDN Policy and pave way for implementation."
>
>
> What we can do to encourage focus on, and commitment to, implementation as
> a main theme at the Seoul meeting is to put such a proposal into the
> introduction and cover message sent with the reviewed and voted on text...
> Particularly as the author of a draft statement Suva we must avoid the
> temptation of adding more text just prior to a vote process lest the whole
> thing end up being delayed if objections are raised... I can however state
> the additional text as a recommendation or proposal from our IDN Liaison
> (with whatever support or modification the ALAC wishes to give to it) as an
> annex to rather than part of the endorsed for vote statement text)
>
> Apologies for any lack of context, conciseness or grammar here but I'm on
> some major pain killers at the moment after minor surgery and have sat too
> long looking at my email...
>
> Vanda as Acting ALAC Chair at the moment if this makes no sense to you and
> the others please over-ride or alter till it does but we need to get the
> VOTE started ASAP to stay on schedule...
>
> CLO
>
>
>
> 2009/7/10 Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn at gmail.com>
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> While incorporating comments in the draft comment statement, in the context
>> of "ALAC raises the following comments with a view to contribute to the
>> process of evolving the Plan further as a complete Plan so as to ensure
>> that
>> IDN TLDs are smoothly implemented globally without technical or policy
>> related implementation issues and seamlessly integrated in the domain name
>> system. At the same time ALAC empathizes that all that needs to be examined
>> needs to be examined expeditiously as expressed in the opinion within that
>> 'Fast-track IDN ccTLDs must be implemented as planned, i.e. in Q4 of 2009
>> as
>> the latest, to meet the "pressing need" of non-ASCII user community", I
>> have
>> added the following statement contextually.
>>
>> "With the view to expeditiously complete the IDN related tasks, it is
>> proposed that ICANN incorporates in its agenda for the Seoul meeting a full
>> day of meetings to focus on IDNs, scheduled as inter-constituency meetings
>> attended by invited experts, staff and finance committees to resolve all
>> pending issues related to IDN Policy and pave way for implementation."
>>
>> The statement with changes is at page
>> https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?at_large_idn_policy. Apart from
>> non-substantive, structural changes in the process of merging comments with
>> the original draft comment statement, the above addition related to focused
>> inter-constituency meetings on IDN TLDs at the next ICANN meeting is an
>> important addition that DID NOT form part of the draft comment while it was
>> open for alac comments during the last 7 days. Added contextually to
>> reconcile the need for urgency and the necessity for the required further
>> work.
>>
>> I hope this is permissible post comment period, and be accepted as part of
>> the statement to vote.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <
>> isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hello CLO,
>>>
>>> I have incorporate the comments and prepared a more concise comment as
>>>
>> the
>>
>>> ALAC comment on the 3rd revision of the Draft Implementation Plan for IDN
>>> ccTLDs. This is at page
>>> https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?at_large_idn_policy.
>>>
>>> By a copy of this message to staff I am requesting that this may please
>>>
>> be
>>
>>> copied to the alac docs page and anywhere else as may be required or
>>>
>> emailed
>>
>>> to initiate the voting process.
>>>
>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <
>>> isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mathias,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Will work on this today. And send you a revision incorporating comments
>>>>
>> in
>>
>>>> a few hours.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>>> Blog: http://isocmadras.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>> facebook: http://is.gd/x8Sh
>>>> LinkedIn: http://is.gd/x8U6
>>>> Twitter: http://is.gd/x8Vz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Matthias Langenegger <
>>>> matthias.langenegger at icann.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Siva,
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the At-Large Policy Development schedule, the final draft
>>>>>
>> of
>>
>>>>> the At-Large Comment on the Draft Implementation Plan for IDN ccTLD
>>>>>
>> Fast
>>
>>>>> Track Process Revision 3 is due today. Did you receive a response to
>>>>>
>> your
>>
>>>>> Email from Wednesday and did you have a chance to revise the Draft
>>>>> Statement? As soon as we receive the final Draft Statement from you we
>>>>>
>> will
>>
>>>>> start the ALAC vote on the document.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthias Langenegger
>>>>> At-Large Coordination Officer
>>>>> Internet Association for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>>> Phone: +41 79 644 65 35
>>>>> Skype: matthiaslangenegger
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: idn-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [
>>>>> idn-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Sivasubramanian
>>>>> Muthusamy [isolatedn at gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:21 AM
>>>>> To: ALAC Internal List
>>>>> Cc: Bart Boswinkel; Tina Dam; idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Statement on IDN Fast Track
>>>>> Proposal v3
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello CLO
>>>>>
>>>>> The revised draft incorporating comments is due tomorrow (9th July) and
>>>>> the
>>>>> statement has to go to alac vote tomorrow. Apart from incorporating
>>>>> comments, should any of the nine points need to be DELETED ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please advise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>>>> Blog: http://isocmadras.blogspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>> facebook: http://is.gd/x8Sh
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://is.gd/x8U6
>>>>> Twitter: http://is.gd/x8Vz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <
>>>>> isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Tina
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The points raised in point 7,8,9 in the ALAC draft comment in
>>>>>>
>>>>> reference to
>>>>>
>>>>>> the absence of links to documents etc. are general, minor
>>>>>>
>> observations,
>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>> to be taken as a suggestion for maintaining the completeness of the
>>>>>>
>>>>> draft
>>>>>
>>>>>> implementation report. It was NOT implied that this is a serious
>>>>>>
>>>>> omission,
>>>>>
>>>>>> nor implied that there was any reason for any intent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The draft comments may please NOT be seen as directed to IDN staff,
>>>>>>
>> and
>>
>>>>>> certainly there was no misunderstanding about staff / working groups
>>>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>> would have compiled the third revison of the plan on which the draft
>>>>>> comments were prepared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>>>>> IDN liaision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <
>>>>>> nick.ashton-hart at icann.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear IDN Working Group and ALAC members:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tina Dan at ICANN had a look at the draft statement, and thought I
>>>>>>>
>>>>> should
>>>>>
>>>>>>> advise you of the following, which she thinks may be a
>>>>>>>
>>>>> misunderstanding:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> In 7-8-9, where it appears the ALAC is understanding the Module 7
>>>>>>>
>>>>> revision
>>>>>
>>>>>>> to be that there are no outstanding issues. In fact all outstanding
>>>>>>>
>>>>> issues
>>>>>
>>>>>>> related to financial considerations, relationship between ICANN and
>>>>>>>
>>>>> manager,
>>>>>
>>>>>>> and variant management are still outstanding, hence the supporting
>>>>>>>
>>>>> papers.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> We simply provided supporting papers as opposed to keeping these
>>>>>>>
>> long
>>
>>>>>>> discussions in Module 7.
>>>>>>> It is correct that we did not add link to the supporting papers in
>>>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>>> Draft Implementation Plan. This was difficult to do because of the
>>>>>>>
>>>>> posting
>>>>>
>>>>>>> deadlines and instead we posted all papers together at:
>>>>>>> http://icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-31may09-en.htm
>>>>>>> I hope this is of use to you. Of course if you have any questions
>>>>>>>
>>>>> related
>>>>>
>>>>>>> to the above, I'm sure Tina would be happy to help.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nick Ashton-Hart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Director for At-Large
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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