[ALAC] RES: Wednesday's teleconference on travel policy

Fri Aug 22 14:50:45 EDT 2008

Yes, Vanda,

That is exactly how I saw it.  Especially since she had to specifically mention that the two liaisons and "two or three key summit organizers" would also be invited.  If the status quo were to be kept then all Chairs, Secretariats and Liaisons would be going to Cairo without question.

D

PS - Have a great weekend everybody!

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From: alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Vanda Scartezini UOL
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Subject: [ALAC] RES: Wednesday's teleconference on travel policy

HI EVAN, Carlton 

Exactly the point raised by Denise which shall be questioned. In my understanding what she said as "essentially"  not change doesn't mean    "nothing"will change right now. 

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De: alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de Carlton Samuels
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 22 de agosto de 2008 15:38
Para: 'Evan Leibovitch'
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Assunto: Re: [ALAC] Wednesday's teleconference on travel policy

Evan:
There was no such qualification!  What was said is that this was a policy
*proposal* and is being handled in the way proposals are supposed to be -
discussed and a consensus position adopted. Whatever form was adopted would
not come into effect until the new fiscal year, which begins in June 2009.

In fact, from my perspective, both Denise & Brent were at pains to ensure
these essential factors were understood!

Carlton

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[mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Evan Leibovitch
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:04 PM
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Subject: [ALAC] Wednesday's teleconference on travel policy

While there are certainly various reactions being contemplated in
regards to the ICANN travel policy, this message is specifically
intended to call attention to one interesting detail from Wednesday's
teleconference on the issue.

I refer to the summary minutes of the meeting:
https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?summary_minutes_20_august_2008
and the 12th paragraph, which currently begins:

> D Michel wanted to address a couple of issues. First of all, she noted
> that nothing will essentially change for At-Large until a year from now.

This is very significant, if it is accurate, for it indicates a
substantial change in policy from what we have been told to date. What I
have been explicitly told by ICANN staff is that -- starting IMMEDIATELY
with the Cairo meeting -- only the 15 ALAC members people would be
funded. No liaisons, no RALO chairs or secretariats, and no regional ALS
reps.

I can understand the lack of regional rep funding for Cairo given that
the Summit takes place the following meeting, and it is intended to
welcome ALSs from everywhere. However, the cut off of Chair, Secretariat
and Liaison funding is definitely not the "status quo" for At-Large.

Denise's statement above, as reported in the summary minutes, appears to
contradict the announcement of earlier cuts. However, I am informed that
what she really meant to say (as was Doug in speaking of "maintaining
the status quo") is that nothing will change **FOR ALAC ONLY**.

An examination of the recording will confirm or deny what Denise was
reported as saying, which means that either:

- Indeed, nothing is changing for the next year, which means Liaison and
RALO leadership funding for Cairo, Mexico City, and June 2009 in AsiaPac

or

- There is some doublespeak going on, which suggests that the status quo
for At-Large is being maintained when it clearly is not. If even the
ICANN staffer taking the summary minutes had not caught any intended
nuance that distinguished between "ALAC" and "At-Large", why would we?
As far as I know, ALAC and At-Large are not separated as budget categories.

In any case, I look forward to the clarification of this matter. If,
indeed, the At-Large status quo will not change this year, I applaud
ICANN staff on this show of good faith, and look forward to its
constructive engagement with At-Large on this and other issues.

- Evan

PS: I am very aware that Denise explicitly said that a few Summit
organizers and two of the Liaisons would be funded to go to Cairo. But
there is a difference between making some arbitrary exceptions to the
cuts, and saying there is no change to what had been done before.

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