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    <p>HI Maureen,</p>
    <p>I have read the paper and have different experiences than
      others.  At the IGF USA we did a virtual cocktail and it was
      great. It was relaxing and gave everyone a change to relax and let
      go steam. Of course we did this after the event was over. So
      perhaps that was why it worked well.  People who were not
      participating in the event and were just webinar participants said
      it was also great <br>
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    <p>I loved the networking event we did in Malaysia. I thought it
      worked well. We got the idea from RIPE NCC which had a series of
      fun social events and this worked really well. <br>
    </p>
    <p>I tried out Spatial Chat at the Brazilian IGF meeting which was a
      Samba Party and I did not know anyone but it was easy to talk to
      people and there were places to go and quietly talk to others. You
      would leave the music room and go to another room and it worked
      well. I got a chance to talk to people I only knew from meetings.
      It was relaxing and I think this worked out well. At the TTF in
      January we will be testing a series of these networking apps so
      can provide you with more feedback later. <br>
    </p>
    <p>After each session we had a separate room where people can go and
      talk to the speakers after the session and continue the
      conversation like often happens in in person events and this
      worked really well. I enjoyed these 20 minutes convos. I think it
      really helped.  It was very informal <br>
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    <p>I think we need more places to be informal.  We need to have zoom
      rooms, white boards and other things that we have during in-person
      events. We need an ability to talk informally instead of just so
      formal events and meeting which can be stale.</p>
    <p>Holly and Marita are right, these three week sessions are
      killers.  For Virtual meetings we cannot have 3 weeks, it just
      will not work especially while we all have days jobs <br>
    </p>
    <p>We need more RTT, We need more zoom meetings, we also need video
      of the speakers, but not necessarily videos of the people who are
      not speaking. The people who are speaking also must face the
      camera. If you just have these videos it cuts down on the
      bandwidth but also helps others relate and also helps people who
      are lip reading be engaged.</p>
    <p>Not sure how the regional meetings will work during COVID. I can
      see international meetings maybe starting before regional ones but
      I could be wrong.</p>
    <p>these are just some of my thoughts</p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Judith<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/8/2020 10:16 PM, Holly Raiche
      wrote:<br>
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      <div class="">I also question the value of networking in an online
        context.  Like Marita, I need breaks from screens. Real
        networking is the F2F stuff - the give and take of a real
        conversation over coffee or (after 5) something stronger.  </div>
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      <div class="">And bandwidth is not just a south American/African
        problem.  Someone ask our ALAC chair about bandwidth on Cook
        Islands!</div>
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      <div class="">Another concern is that the meetings stretch over
        time to cover weeks!  People can take time off for a week or so
        - but stretching over weeks when particularly AT-Large community
        members have day jobs as well…...  But yes - starting with a
        regional hub meeting is positive- and at least people are in
        roughly the same time zone.</div>
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      <div class="">Holly</div>
      <div class="">
        <div><br class="">
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            <div class="">On Dec 9, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Marita Moll <<a
                href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net" class=""
                moz-do-not-send="true">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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                <p class=""><font class="" face="Times New Roman, Times,
                    serif">I agree with Ricardo's comments re: video.  I
                    live in the middle of a city and sometimes I have to
                    turn video off as bandwidth gets thin. <br class="">
                  </font></p>
                <p class=""><font class="" face="Times New Roman, Times,
                    serif">Re: networking -- I have little energy for
                    on-line networking/coffee breaks/socials during
                    extended virtual meetings. I usually need to get
                    away from the screen for awhile -- I know that
                    sounds boring, but unrelenting screen time is
                    mind-numbing. Perhaps there are tools which would
                    make it worthwhile, but I haven't seen them yet. I'd
                    rather see meeting shortened rather than networking
                    time increased.<br class="">
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                <p class=""><font class="" face="Times New Roman, Times,
                    serif">I am also wondering if the impact of
                    extensive vaccinations are taken into account. </font><font
                    class="" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font
                      class="" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"> It
                      is early days, but if the hype about millions of
                      doses being available in a few months has any
                      validity, this will change things again.  </font>Should
                    there be a slow return to f2f mtgs, how would
                    vaccinations fit into the picture. I will definitely
                    be in line once I see an available line forming. But
                    there are sceptics. At some point, will co-vid
                    vaccinations be mandatory for those attending large
                    international meetings?<br class="">
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                <p class=""><font class="" face="Times New Roman, Times,
                    serif">Marita</font><br class="">
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/8/2020 3:24 AM,
                  Ricardo Holmquist wrote:<br class="">
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                    <div class="">Dear Maureen,</div>
                    <div class="">I mostly agree with the document, I am
                      happy to see this 4 step approach, where a phase 1
                      will allow for regional hubs/regional meetings.</div>
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                    <div class="">The points I am not agreeing with are
                      in the key findings, these are:<br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div class=""> <span style="font-family: Symbol;"
                        class="" lang="EN-US"><span class=""><span
style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times
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                        style="font-family:"Source Sans
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                        lang="EN-US"><b class=""><u class="">Increase
                            time for networking and develop better tools
                            to support networking opportunities during
                            virtual meetings.</u></b></span> </div>
                    <div class="">- My concern is networking, thus
                      pushing for regional hubs (phase 1 and 2), not
                      during virtual meetings. The networking in the
                      conference I was looking for is the one that
                      allows a small group to reach a consensus outside
                      the meeting, to elaborate a strategy, to find a
                      solution. Not networking to meet new people, yes
                      this one is also needed, but the first one is the
                      productive one.</div>
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                    </div>
                    <div class=""> <span style="font-family: Symbol;"
                        class="" lang="EN-US"><span class=""><span
style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times
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                            class=""><b class=""><u class="">   </u></b></span></span></span><span
                        style="font-family:"Source Sans
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                        lang="EN-US"><b class=""><u class="">Increase
                            visual/video/graphic elements and encourage
                            use of video cameras by all participants.</u></b></span>
                    </div>
                    <div class="">- The use of video cameras. I have not
                      seen a study on broadband with or without video,
                      but for any compression algorithm it won't be the
                      same to compress a presentation with voice, than
                      200 cameras, (or the same broadband needed to
                      share or not your own camera). This objective
                      sounds good when you have a nice broadband in your
                      house/office, but this is not the case for most
                      Latin America and African countries, not even so
                      in the outside larger cities in some developed
                      countries. Before going to take this measure, be
                      aware of the impact on internet connections. I
                      don't know if someone in this group already has
                      some findings on this.<br class="">
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                    <div class="">Also, take steps before, like the use
                      of Zoom meetings vs webinars in the different
                      sessions. I felt particularly uncomfortable in the
                      ALAC - Board session, being a Zoom webinar, this
                      is supposed to be a close meeting.</div>
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                    <div class="">Hope this contributes to the
                      discussion</div>
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                    <div class="">Best</div>
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                    <div class="">Ricardo Holmquist<br class="">
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mar, 8 dic 2020
                      a las 4:48, Maureen Hilyard (<<a
                        href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true" class="">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>>)
                      escribió:<br class="">
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="">Hi all
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                        <div class=""> Attached  is a paper that has
                          just arrived from David Olive as ICANN's
                          contribution to the revised schedule and
                          considerations relating to future ICANN
                          meetings. They would like feedback by Friday
                          18 December (no pressure!!)</div>
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                        <div class="">I would really appreciate some
                          feedback from ALAC and RALOs,that I can send
                          to ICANN Org to supplement the inputs from the
                          SOAC Chairs(-only) meeting which we are
                          holding this Weds (at the same time as the
                          CPWG meeting).</div>
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                        <div class="">So if I could have some feedback
                          from any of you on this thread, I'd really
                          appreciate passing it on (the good, the bad
                          and the ugly!). Their 12-page document is
                          attached.</div>
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                        <div class="">M</div>
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