<div dir="auto">Hi Jonathan,<div dir="auto">Am really surprised you are not seeing these things. If I begin to list examples it would definitely take me  hours to type them out.  </div><div dir="auto">More importantly it is important that we make sure we have a truly multi-stakeholder platform where we learn to listen to a diverse opinion. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yes that is not necessarily a part to leadership but  sometimes it takes conscious efforts to bring people out of thier comfort zone especially when your have dominating factors.It's not about how long it's about how well. There are peculiarities that must be accepted. Some are oppotuned to be born into a welfare state others it's survival for the fittest. What matters most is passion and commitment. </div><div dir="auto">Cheers</div><div dir="auto">AK</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 4 Oct 2020, 22:36 Jonathan Zuck, <<a href="mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org">JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



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There's an active tool in place to silence any diverse opinion? What is that? A culture of silence and dominance? I apologize if I'm being dim but I'm not sure I see that either.<br>
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There's nothing wrong at all with those with only an hour to give per week. I'm unclear, however, how to make that a path to leadership.<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 4, 2020 4:48:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Glenn McKnight <<a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a>>; Jonathan Zuck <<a href="mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Maureen Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>>; ALAC <<a href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ALAC] 2020-2021 ALT Call for Nominations</font>
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<div>Thank you Glenn, for guiding the discussion. I totally agree with you. It is a multistakeholder platform and I often wonder when we talk about "expertise", and "values". I wonder what those things really mean in a multistakeholder platform because if there
 is something like an association of thick /unintelligent/idiots internet users they also have the right to be represented and be listened too. In terms of values, Yes I agree with values if we are talking about fairness, transparency and justice and rule of
 law but otherwise, I disagree. I usually give this example: talk about having CCTV cameras in kids classroom. Some parents in some part of the world would never allow it cos of privacy concerns and concerns about who would be having access to it but in some
 part of the world, the parents are asking for it because that is the best way to keep the child safe in the classroom. For the former group,  they see a lot of harm being done by the paedophile just watching but the later group the abuse is actually being
 carried out by the teachers or fellow pupil in class, so the parent is more comfortable with a 3rd party watching and reporting back to them. Both categories of parents have different values about CCTV based on their society but they are both right. </div>
<div>Furthermore, We are all volunteers, some can afford to volunteer 18hrs a day while others can only volunteer 1 hour a day. This should not be a problem cos it meant to be complimentary. The main problem is the culture of silence and dominance. There is
 also an active tool in place to silent any diverse opinion. <a id="m_-2629461385784068631x_plusReplyChip-1" href="mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@Jonathan Zuck</a> that blocks those point of entries.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Maureen  
<div>I understand your position and we are not in disagreement on the merit of experience but it doesn't take away from the rationale to consider  a most inclusive discussion.  We pride ourselves as being multistakeholder than we really should drink the kool-aid
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<div>my 2 cents</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 1:23 PM Maureen Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thank you Glenn for initiating this discussion, but when we are talking about the ALAC Leadership Team, as Holly points out, there is a degree of experience, knowledge and expertise, as well as already demonstrated leadership, a work ethic and
 commitment to the values that we uphold within At-Large which are important to choosing people from within the ALAC for the leadership team role. Availability of time is another major factor as well. You only have to look at what Joanna and Jonathan have done
 over the past year to see how much work is involved in their role as Vice Chairs. There is geographic representation because there must be a member of each region in the team but while there are many who could be selected, we can only choose ONE person from
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<div>The nominations have been proposed and although there have been no other nominations, there will still be a vote taken by the ALAC as its final decision.
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<div>The ALT+ group was created as an opportunity for anyone on the ALAC as well as RALO leadership teams to demonstrate their knowledge of important At-Large issues and their ability to participate and contribute at a leadership level. Those who are worthy
 of candidacy for leadership roles often demonstrate and are noted for their participation and contributions to discussions that add value to the work of At-Large. This is what people remember and are willing to propose their nominations for leadership roles
 based on their experiences of who they believe could do the job of making recommendations to the ALAC that will benefit our community. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 3:50 AM Glenn McKnight <<a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Holly 
<div>Just trying to tone down the rhetoric  a bit and open the conversation.  Its not an "Anti-Maureen" perspective but I have seen a history of criticism that has seeds of validity. No none is denying experience, dedication and performance is key in someone
 doing the job, just saying we have some vocal and many silent membership that have an alternative perspective and we need to open the discussion.  </div>
<div>A recent experience in NOMCOM had similar polarity of candidates. some new vs unproven entities and its interesting to see the arguments for each....</div>
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<div>And a response to you - it really isn’t so much about ‘youth’ per se. It is about new faces who are interested, and willing to put the time and effort into the job. So yes, all of the issues you (Glen raise) can be part of the discussion. WE also need
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<div>I was thinking of  Abdulkarim's  comments and this resonates with the  Atlarge review that  'new folks'  and younger generation need to  be encouraged into ALAC leadership.  This is  a valid observation but more problematic in application.     I need to
 point that the nomination period was open to anyone.  The reality was that  Maureen was the only person that stepped up.   Not sure why the community didn't respond and nominate or self nominate.  The job is a thankless job with a ton of work and responsibility. 
 It's not like the paid ICANN Board position, its an unpaid position ( this is another major issue that is an inherent disincentive to younger generation members)     </div>
<div>We need to have an intelligent discussion of these issues.   Perhaps  we need to provide a set of recommendations for this type of senior leadership   on issues such as:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 6:24 AM ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>I am happy to support these nominations. </div>
<div>However, I think we need to start thinking of a mix with the younger generation.</div>
<div>This I think is important as things are changing very fast so is the need of the younger generation, </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 7:48 PM Marita Moll <<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Hi. I would like to nominate the following</font></p>
<p>Dave Kissoondoyal (AFRALO), Maureen Hilyard (APRALO), Joanna Kulesza (EURALO) Carlos Raul Gutierrez (LACRALO) and Jonathan Zuck (NARALO)</p>
<p>I think it will be a very effective team</p>
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<span>This selection is carried out in accordance with the ALAC Rules of Procedure Section 17.3 (RoPs -<span> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Rules+of+Procedure?preview=/2262672/111389695/ALAC%20RoP-Revision_4-Approved-24October2018.pdf" title="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Rules+of+Procedure?preview=/2262672/111389695/ALAC%20RoP-Revision_4-Approved-24October2018.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:rgb(149,79,114)">https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Rules+of+Procedure?preview=/2262672/111389695/ALAC%20RoP-Revision_4-Approved-24October2018.pdf</span></a>).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<pre style="font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations, but must have an</span><span> </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> virtual</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> ICANN6</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">9</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Meeting</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">. </span><span><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<pre style="font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Requirements for ALT members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC RoPs. In short, ALT members are expected to attend all ALAC meetings, typically</span><span> </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">two ALT or ALT-related meetings per month, and be very responsive and thoughtful to e-mail requests and discussions. By mutual agreement, ALT</span><span> </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">members may take on additional roles. Vice-Chairs are expected to take on proportionally larger responsibilities. All ALT activities are carried</span><span> </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">out solely in English.</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<pre style="font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The nomination period is now open and will close on </span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Monday, 5 October 2020</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">  at 23:59 UTC. </span></b><span><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<pre style="font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by acclamation.</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<pre style="font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">situation. Failing that, a secret vote of the ALAC will decide the winner.</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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