<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Eduardo +1.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Jean-Jacques (78)</div> <br> <div id="bloop_sign_1536759795795898880" class="bloop_sign"></div> <br><p class="airmail_on">Le 12 septembre 2018 à 14:44:00, Eduardo Diaz (<a href="mailto:eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com">eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com</a>) a écrit:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>
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<div dir="ltr">I may want to start at 70 because I may have
the energy, desire, experience, knowledge and time to do this type
of volunteer work. After all it is more mental than physical.
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 5:40 AM Tijani BEN JEMAA
<<a href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn">tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn</a>>
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<div>The upper age limit is there because the fellowship should
benefit to people who may become ICANN leaders while if you start
being fellow at 70, when you will become leader?</div>
<div>But I would be fine if the majority want no upper limit.</div>
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<div>As for having 2 sets of requirements for the skill (one for
meetings A & C and one for meeting B), I agree</div>
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<div>Le 11 sept. 2018 à 10:00, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div>
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<div dir="auto">I agree with Tijani's comments but with caveats on
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<div dir="auto">Age: Am fine with the lower band limit since there
is nextgen hence younger ones should use that but I personally
don't see a need for upper band limit.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Skills: I agree with the comments but I think
experience in ICANN processes should still be maintained for B
meeting. I do think that having 2 sets of requirement for the
meetings will be better. One that is less strong on ICANN
participation for meetings A and C and then another for meetings B
which is more focused on prior participation/understanding of ICANN
processes</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, 7 Sep 2018, 12:08 Tijani BEN JEMAA,
<<a href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn" target="_blank">tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><font color="#002E7A">Dear
all,</font>
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<div><font color="#002E7A">I would like to thank the outreach and
engagement sub-committee for providing this good
draft.</font></div>
<div><font color="#002E7A">Nevertheless, I have concerns in the
following categories of diversity: Region, Age, Skills and other
diversity category:</font></div>
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<li><font color="#002E7A"><b>Region:</b> As it is written
here, we may have the whole selected fellows from the global north
(people with sufficient wealth to come to ICANN meetings on their
own expenses). My proposal is « Underserved regions and
global underserved communities ».</font></li>
<li><font color="#002E7A"><b>Age:</b> I agree with Sarah and
Ricardo that limiting the age to 40 years is to avoid. I propose in
stead « 24 - 55 years)</font></li>
<li><font color="#002E7A"><b>Skills:</b> Someone skilled in
ICANN policy development with ability to analyse data from an
Internet end user perspective, as well as knowledge and technical
experience of/with the Internet eco-system won’t have any need to
be fellow. He/she is already expert. The original objective of the
fellowship program is to bring people who need the fellowship to be
able to attend an ICANN meeting, and the whole fellowship program
for fellows during the meeting is more or less capacity building.
So experts wouldn’t need the program and doesn’t give ICANN any
added value. I propose: « sufficient educational background to
understand the ICANN environment, good understanding of the English
language, Interest in Internet in general, Interest in
participating in the ICANN work ».</font></li>
<li><font color="#002E7A"><b>Other diversity
category:</b> Civil Society, Internet end-users, global
indigenous people are kind of stakeholders. They should be placed
in the section « Stakeholders groups and constituencies.
I don’t think we should target persons because they are victims of
harassment or conflicts. Exclusion and extreme poverty fall under
the region category when it is defined as « Underserved
regions and global underserved communities ».</font></li>
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<div><font color="#002E7A">As a general remark, I don’t think we
were asked to give our own interest only. I think we should give
the best target for the whole ICANN.</font></div>
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<div>Le 7 sept. 2018 à 08:01, Ricardo Holmquist <<a href="mailto:rihogris@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">rihogris@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div>
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<div>Hi,</div>
<div>same question of Sarah. I was one of the fellows over 40
years, as well as Alfredo Calderon, and several others.</div>
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<div>IMHO, people over this range of age have more time to engage
in this kind of tasks, unless they are also engaged in any part of
the community as workers. I mean, if you work for a RIR, any
Internet association, a University Professor, a Govermental
employee in a Internet Governance office, a Law firm interested in
IP, or a Registry or Registrar, part of your job will be ICANN.
Your boss will now who is ICANN, and most times will be happy you
are there.</div>
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<div>If you are a volunteer in ISOC or at any other Internet
related association, or an Individual member, you should have a
regular job. Under 40 years you are in your most productive time,
usually with kids in their scholar process. Taking 7-10 days to
assist to a meeting, and if engaged, time to do so, doesn´t sound
feasible.</div>
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<div>For the At-Large community, most of its dedicated members came
from the second, not from the first. You can check ALAC, very few
exceptions are under 40. This age top, will affect us mostly.</div>
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<div>Kind regards<br></div>
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<div>Ricardo Holmquist<br></div>
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<div dir="auto">Thank you Alan for sending this
document. </div>
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<div dir="auto">I have a question regarding the age that has
specified in the attached document. The fellowship requirement is
for applicants to be above 21 years of age but there is no maximum
age mentioned. Is there a reason why this document states 24 - 40
years? </div>
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<div dir="auto">Kind regards,</div>
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<div dir="auto">Sarah </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 00:01 Alan Greenberg
<<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div>Along with the need to select a Fellowship Selection Committee
Member representing the ALAC, we have been asked to make
suggestions on the criteria for selection and places to publicize
the program.<br>
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The SC on Outreach and Engagement was given the task of working on
the latter document. the result (with a minor change to include
regional IGF meetings) is attached.<br>
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<b><u>With this message, I am initiating a SHORT Consensus Call of
the ALAC</u></b> to ratify the criteria document.<br>
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This Consensus Call will end at 23:59 UTC on Sunday, 9 September
2018.<br>
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If there are any questions of comments, please direct them to
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