<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">My further two cents.<div><br></div><div>The SSAC 101 goes into a lot of detail on how access is being blocked and in what circumstance. Some of that text some may not support. So I’d rather support the summary statement that Marita proposed - which means support for the principle, but without necessarily supporting all of the text.</div><div><br></div><div>Holly<br><div><div>On 29 Aug 2018, at 5:35 am, Joanna Kulesza <<a href="mailto:jkuleszaicann@gmail.com">jkuleszaicann@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Thank you Alan, I fully see your point. As already said, if the group do decide to go for a more nuanced response, I'm happy to help with the drafting. Just to briefly respond to Marita's suggestion: I would assume the details of any "adequate access" are bound to stir controversy. Yet if the group decide we are for full endorsement, I will halt my concerns.<br><br>Just my two cents. Thanks!<br>J. <br><br>W dniu wtorek, 28 sierpnia 2018 Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> napisał(a):<br>> I can only give you my opinion. I cannot say whether our position is identical to that of SSAC, but I cannot see anything in that document that I do not believe is in support of our needs. I do not think that we have the bacndwidth to work from scratch at the moment, and in a timely manner. Voicing support for this report was a quick action that I believed we could take without compromising our position.<br>><br>> I would be interested in understanding what we do not agree with and we could certainly add those caveats if there was agreement.<br>><br>> And thank you for jumping in! :-)<br>><br>> Alan<br>><br>> At 28/08/2018 05:09 AM, Joanna Kulesza wrote:<br>><br>> Thank you Alan and Andrei for the updates.<br>><br>> Please excuse my newcomer confusion - not meaning to stir the pot here - but I'm wondering how close At-Large's/ALAC's position is to that of the SSAC? Do we agree with their report 100%? My initial thinking is that representing users, we might want a somewhat more diversified approach than that offered by the SSAC, ensuring full GDPR compliance (I'm happy to elaborate if needed). Also, would it make sense to take on the positions of other communities in our statement, if only for the sake of future consensus building? As already briefly mentioned to Alan, I'm happy to help with the drafting if needed.<br>><br>> Best to all,<br>> Joanna Kulesza<br>> --------------------------------<br>> Joanna Kulesza, PhD<br>> assistant professor of international law and Internet governance<br>> Faculty of Law and Administration, University of Lodz<br>> Kopcinskiego Street 8/12, 90-232 Lodz, Poland<br>> publications: <a href="https://unilodz.academia.edu/JoannaKulesza/">https://unilodz.academia.edu/JoannaKulesza/</a><br>> website: <a href="https://pl.linkedin.com/in/kuleszajoanna">https://pl.linkedin.com/in/kuleszajoanna</a><br>><br>> wt., 28 sie 2018 o 08:27 Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a> > napisaÅ‚(a): As I mentioned on the ALAC call that has just completed, all EPDP participant groups have been given the opportunity to provide "early input" into the EPDP.<br>> So far, the SSAC and the NCSG has done so. Their input can be found at <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/Ag9pBQ">https://community.icann.org/x/Ag9pBQ</a>.<br>> The SSAC's input consisted of their recent report SAC101. A copy is attached for your convenience.<br>> I would like to suggest that the ALAC submit a statement saying that we support SAC101, as it is in line with our stated position of trying to ensure that security professionals and law enforcement have adequate access to WHOIS/RDS data.<br>> I open the floor for discussion and will initiate a Consensus Call later in the week.<br>> Alan _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list <a href="mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org">ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> <a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac</a><br>> At-Large Online: <a href="http://www.atlarge.icann.org/">http://www.atlarge.icann.org</a> ALAC Working Wiki: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)">https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)</a>
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