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<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Thanks Holly, My
concerns in a nutshell. This document covers a lot of ground
outside of the particular principle we are currently addressing.</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Marita</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/28/2018 3:44 PM, Holly Raiche
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My further two cents.
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<div>The SSAC 101 goes into a lot of detail on how access is being
blocked and in what circumstance. Some of that text some may
not support. So I’d rather support the summary statement that
Marita proposed - which means support for the principle, but
without necessarily supporting all of the text.</div>
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<div>Holly<br>
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<div>On 29 Aug 2018, at 5:35 am, Joanna Kulesza <<a
href="mailto:jkuleszaicann@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">jkuleszaicann@gmail.com</a>>
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<blockquote type="cite">Thank you Alan, I fully see your
point. As already said, if the group do decide to go for a
more nuanced response, I'm happy to help with the drafting.
Just to briefly respond to Marita's suggestion: I would
assume the details of any "adequate access" are bound to
stir controversy. Yet if the group decide we are for full
endorsement, I will halt my concerns.<br>
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Just my two cents. Thanks!<br>
J. <br>
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W dniu wtorek, 28 sierpnia 2018 Alan Greenberg <<a
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"
moz-do-not-send="true">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>>
napisał(a):<br>
> I can only give you my opinion. I cannot say whether
our position is identical to that of SSAC, but I cannot see
anything in that document that I do not believe is in
support of our needs. I do not think that we have the
bacndwidth to work from scratch at the moment, and in a
timely manner. Voicing support for this report was a quick
action that I believed we could take without compromising
our position.<br>
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> I would be interested in understanding what we do not
agree with and we could certainly add those caveats if there
was agreement.<br>
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> And thank you for jumping in! :-)<br>
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> Alan<br>
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> At 28/08/2018 05:09 AM, Joanna Kulesza wrote:<br>
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> Thank you Alan and Andrei for the updates.<br>
><br>
> Please excuse my newcomer confusion - not meaning to
stir the pot here - but I'm wondering how close
At-Large's/ALAC's position is to that of the SSAC? Do we
agree with their report 100%? My initial thinking is that
representing users, we might want a somewhat more
diversified approach than that offered by the SSAC, ensuring
full GDPR compliance (I'm happy to elaborate if needed).
Also, would it make sense to take on the positions of other
communities in our statement, if only for the sake of future
consensus building? As already briefly mentioned to Alan,
I'm happy to help with the drafting if needed.<br>
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> Best to all,<br>
> Joanna Kulesza<br>
> --------------------------------<br>
> Joanna Kulesza, PhD<br>
> assistant professor of international law and Internet
governance<br>
> Faculty of Law and Administration, University of Lodz<br>
> Kopcinskiego Street 8/12, 90-232 Lodz, Poland<br>
> publications: <a
href="https://unilodz.academia.edu/JoannaKulesza/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://unilodz.academia.edu/JoannaKulesza/</a><br>
> website: <a
href="https://pl.linkedin.com/in/kuleszajoanna"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://pl.linkedin.com/in/kuleszajoanna</a><br>
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> wt., 28 sie 2018 o 08:27 Alan Greenberg <<a
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"
moz-do-not-send="true">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a> >
napisał(a): As I mentioned on the ALAC call that has just
completed, all EPDP participant groups have been given the
opportunity to provide "early input" into the EPDP.<br>
> So far, the SSAC and the NCSG has done so. Their input
can be found at <a
href="https://community.icann.org/x/Ag9pBQ"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/x/Ag9pBQ</a>.<br>
> The SSAC's input consisted of their recent report
SAC101. A copy is attached for your convenience.<br>
> I would like to suggest that the ALAC submit a
statement saying that we support SAC101, as it is in line
with our stated position of trying to ensure that security
professionals and law enforcement have adequate access to
WHOIS/RDS data.<br>
> I open the floor for discussion and will initiate a
Consensus Call later in the week.<br>
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