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Frankly, we can just remove the reference to OCL. Will that do? Evin, can that be done?<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> ALAC <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of h.raiche@internode.on.net <h.raiche@internode.on.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 28, 2018 7:17:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Carlton Samuels; Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ALAC] URGENT: Supplementary Comment on .O release</font>
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<div>Happy to support Olivier's request. Olivier, I'm sure you and Jonathn can, between you, come up with a form of words thaat works</div>
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<div>FWIW, I find Olivier's comment perfectly reasonable and supportable; auctions to establish who gets the string with no reserve price.
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<div>We cannot know or guess every fo...., well business plan out there. Let's disavow prior restraint here. The positional principle ought to be for maximizing the take by fair and transparent means and use those windfall proceeds to help advance the agenda
to which ICANN and the community are severally committed.</div>
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<div>Let's opt to help our friends and neighbours who would wish to spend big money on a string do so efficiently and help some others too. Because as we say in my neck of the woods when Eskimos have too much money they buy [a] [re]fridge[ator].</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 12:40 am Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Dear Alan,<br>
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given that a follow-up statement with "corrections" was posted to the public comment forum after I informed you of the matter below and given the fact that my comment was not taken into account, I hereby ask you again to have this statement amended as per below.<br>
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Should this Statement be ratified as such, it will leave me with no option than to write directly to the Public Comment Forum, to issue a rebuttal that I disassociate myself from this Statement.<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
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Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD<br>
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<div class="m_9028192159087213626moz-cite-prefix">On 24/06/2018 00:41, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond wrote:<br>
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<blockquote>Dear Alan,<br>
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thanks for this. I do think that the updated statement is a lot more complete than version 1.<br>
I note a couple of references being made of past statements by people who then became At-Large members, both dating from 2007. Whilst I cannot comment on Avri's Statement, I would like to emphasize that my Statement then was in the context of gTLDs and the
then dynamics in 2007. The comparison to 3G licenses is probably way out of line now, since we now have thousands of new gTLDs thus we are looking at the premium "worth" of a gTLD now that is likely to be lower than when the choice of gTLD was limited to legacy
gTLDs.<br>
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I have already received some negative feedback about this quote from people who interpreted my 2007 email as being a call for ICANN to set a minimum price tag for these domains, much like some of the price tags that were given to 3G spectrum auctions. With
the changing times and landscape, my opinion is that we should support an auction process, we should support it for its proceeds to fund a non profit but there is no need for ICANN to set a minimum (or reserve) price.<br>
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Could this, or a summary of this explanation (or clarification) please be included in the Statement to explain the context of my 2007 comment and soften it to align it with the current reality that there are now thousands of gTLDs? I do not want the wrong message
to be retained by the reader of such a message - and definitely do not want this single opinion that is now more than 10 years told, to overshadow the clear messages we wish to convey in the ALAC's Statement.<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
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Olivier<br>
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<blockquote>In light of other comments posted, Jonathan has suggested that we issue a supplemental comment making it clear that we beleive that the auction proceeds must go to charities that support the public good and the Internet Community. Moreover, the
TLD must actually be used and not acquired for speculation/resale. <br>
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I strongly suggest that we post this comment and ratify after the fact. <br>
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Is there any strong opposition to this? <br>
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Alan <br>
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