<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">Noted.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">Thanks.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">-ed</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">How would you do that?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There’s no way I’d give anyone the information about how much we make (or lose) to anyone – it’s commercially sensitive.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Also the pricing models that many of us use are quite complex<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For example the price of a .com domain name ranges from €0 to €15 depending on how you purchase it.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">And the same is true with many of the other services we and our competitors offer.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t think it’s ever going to be possible to get that level of detail I also don’t think ti’s the correct question to ask<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The questions I’d be asking are things like:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Hosting, Colocation & Domains<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"><a href="http://blacknight.blog/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">http://blacknight.blog/</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://michele.blog/</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Some thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://ceo.hosting/</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Friday 22 June 2018 at 10:20<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Olivier Crepin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>>, ICANN GTLD WG list <<a href="mailto:gtld-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">gtld-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.<wbr>org</a>>, Euralo <<a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.<wbr>icann.org</a>>, ICANN list <<a href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>></span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [EURO-Discuss] [ALAC] ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Publishes Updated gTLD Marketplace Health Index<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The financials aren’t going to be disclosed<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">While some of the larger players (Verisign, GoDaddy, Tucows) are publicly traded a lot of us are private companies, so we aren’t going to start sharing details about what we are
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Blacknight Solutions</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://www.blacknight.com/</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"><a href="http://blacknight.blog/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">http://blacknight.blog/</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://michele.blog/</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Some thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://ceo.hosting/</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">EURO-Discuss <<a href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-<wbr>lists.icann.org</a>> on behalf of Eduardo Diaz <<a href="mailto:eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com" target="_blank">eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 22 June 2018 at 05:44<br>
<b>To: </b>Olivier Crepin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>ICANN GTLD WG list <<a href="mailto:gtld-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">gtld-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.<wbr>org</a>>, Euralo <<a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.<wbr>icann.org</a>>, ICANN
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as you know, I am on the <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/projgtldmarkthealth/gTLD+Marketplace+Health+Index" target="_blank">
Advisory Panel</a> that has worked on putting together this set of statistics. I would be really interested in your feedback ahead of this Sunday. (24 June 2018)<br>
That's the day when I am set to meet the main contractor performing the metric collection and analysis. It is a great opportunity if we think that anything should be done differently - but please bear in mind that we have been working on this for over a year
and some of the "missing" metrics might be due to objections from some parties, mostly based on the impossibility to find a consensus definition of a specific metric.<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">20 June 2018<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>LOS ANGELES – 20 June 2018 – The Internet Corporation for Names and Numbers (ICANN) today announced that ICANN published an update to the gTLD Marketplace Health Index (Beta), which presents statistics and trends related to generic top-level domains (gTLDs).<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gtld-marketplace-health-index-beta-20jun18-en.pdf" target="_blank">View the Health Index</a> [PDF, 2.86 MB]<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>The gTLD Marketplace Health Index (Beta) was first published in July 2016. ICANN plans to publish these statistics twice a year to track progress against its goal of supporting the evolution of the domain name marketplace to be robust, stable and trusted.
A community <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/projgtldmarkthealth/gTLD+Marketplace+Health+Index" target="_blank">
Advisory Panel</a> is working with ICANN to refine the Index in preparation for publishing version 1.0.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>ICANN's mission is to help ensure a stable, secure and unified global Internet. To reach another person on the Internet, you need to type an address – a name or a number – into your computer or other device. That address must be unique so computers know
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