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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Kaili</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=seun.ojedeji@gmail.com href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">Seun
Ojedeji</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>To:</B> <A title=jlaprise@gmail.com
href="mailto:jlaprise@gmail.com">John Laprise</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org
href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org">ALAC Working List</A> ; <A
title=alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">Alan
Greenberg</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 28, 2018 4:21 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to
recent letters regarding At-LargeReview</DIV>
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<DIV dir=auto>Hello John,
<DIV dir=auto><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=auto>While there may indeed be some legitimate people who don't know
how atlarge works. In this context however I do not believe it's lack of
understanding. It strikes me as people who understands how these things works
but have intentionally decided to play ignorance for their personal
intentions.</DIV>
<DIV dir=auto><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=auto>Otherwise how do you explain a GNSO constituency discouraging
participation of ALAC in ICANN policy discussions. How do you explain a group
who themselves have leaderships asking another group to desolve theirs. It
defeats reasoning and purpose.<BR><BR>Regards<BR>
<DIV dir=auto data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Sent from
my mobile<BR>Kindly excuse brevity and typos</DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr>On Sun, 27 May 2018, 21:01 John Laprise, <<A
href="mailto:jlaprise@gmail.com">jlaprise@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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class=gmail_quote>It strikes me that a lot of other SOs & ACs don't
understand what we do, how we work, or how we serve end users.<BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr>On Sun, May 27, 2018, 2:54 PM Vanda Scartezini <<A
href="mailto:vanda@scartezini.org" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>vanda@scartezini.org</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi Carlton. I
am with you but even so, they haven’t write to us to deserve a response.
But we could slao, in another occasion send our generic view to the board
about all ACs and SO and their action in the internet users. Could be a
good alternative don’t you think? Kisses <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">From: </SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">ALAC <<A
href="mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</A>> on behalf of
Carlton Samuels <<A href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com"
rel=noreferrer target=_blank>carlton.samuels@gmail.com</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 15:27<BR><B>To: </B>Dev Teelucksingh <<A
href="mailto:devtee@gmail.com" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>devtee@gmail.com</A>><BR><B>Cc: </B>'ALAC List' <<A
href="mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org</A>>, Alan Greenberg <<A
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</A>><BR><B>Subject: </B>Re:
[ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large
Review<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal>Saw that too but it's a done
deal. <U></U><U></U></P>
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class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal>All in all, the responses
are very restrained. I so too hate for allegedly sensible people to
insist they have a right to waste my limited and yes, valuable
time. <U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal>For I still don't believe
the ALAC should just accept the narrative that neither the NCSG or the CPH
give a tinker's damn about how the ALAC organize and does its
business. <U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal>That is, unless they
intended the ALAC to enumerate the sundry ways their governance - and dare
I say known positions! - may be characterised as inimical to the public
interest.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal>So I would've been more
inclined to step on 'em to give up that bee in their
bonnet.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"
class=MsoNormal>Carlton.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal>On Sat, 26 May 2018, 2:22 pm
Dev Anand Teelucksingh, <<A href="mailto:devtee@gmail.com"
rel=noreferrer target=_blank>devtee@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal>Great response. However on
page 6 re: the ALT, this paragraph<BR><BR>"It is the ALAC’s
understanding that many other groups in ICANN have a<BR>leadership team
(often called an Executive Committee), including the Board<BR>and the
NCSG. In many such cases, including the Board, this group
actually<BR>does have significant decision-making rights"<BR><BR>The
last sentence isn't clear as to "this group" is referring to, with
a<BR>potential interpretation that "this group" is the ALT. I presume
this is<BR>what you were intending<BR><BR>"It is the ALAC’s
understanding that many other groups in ICANN (such as<BR>the Board and
the NCSG) have a leadership team (often called an
Executive<BR>Committee). Such leadership teams do have significant
decision-making<BR>rights."<BR><BR>Kind Regards,<BR><BR>Dev
Anand<BR><BR><BR>On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:48 PM Maureen Hilyard <<A
href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</A>><BR>wrote:<BR><BR>> A
good summary of our discussions. We can now look forward to
the<BR>Board's response/s to all the letters.<BR><BR><BR><BR>> On
Fri, May 25, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Alan Greenberg<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</A>><BR>wrote:<BR><BR>>>
FYI. Alan<BR><BR>>>> To: Cherine Chalaby <<A
href="mailto:cherine.chalaby@board.icann.org" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>cherine.chalaby@board.icann.org</A>>, Khaled Koubaa
<<BR><A href="mailto:Khaled.koubaa@board.icann.org" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>Khaled.koubaa@board.icann.org</A>>, Leon Felipe Sanchez
Ambia <<BR><A href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</A>><BR>>>> From: Alan
Greenberg <<A href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</A>><BR>>>> Subject:
ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large
Review<BR>>>> Cc: Board Operations <<A
href="mailto:board-ops-team@icann.org" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>board-ops-team@icann.org</A>>, At-Large Staff
<<BR><A href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>staff@atlarge.icann.org</A>><BR><BR>>>> Dear
Cherine and Khaled,<BR><BR>>>> Please find attached a letter to
the OEC and the Board in reply to the<BR>recent CPH and NCSG letters
regarding the At-Large Review.<BR><BR>>>> The letter was
developed over the last three days with the involvement<BR>and support
of the ALAC and its RALO Regional Leaders.<BR><BR>>>> Warm
regards, Alan<BR><BR><BR>>>
_______________________________________________<BR>>> ALAC mailing
list<BR>>> <A href="mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
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Wiki:<BR><A
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