It strikes me that a lot of other SOs & ACs don't understand what we do, how we work, or how we serve end users.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, May 27, 2018, 2:54 PM Vanda Scartezini <<a href="mailto:vanda@scartezini.org">vanda@scartezini.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">







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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",serif">Hi Carlton. I am with you but even so, they haven’t write to us to deserve a response. But we could slao, in another occasion send our generic view to the board about all
 ACs and SO and their action in the internet users. Could be a good alternative don’t you think? Kisses
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">ALAC <<a href="mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> on behalf of Carlton Samuels <<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 15:27<br>
<b>To: </b>Dev Teelucksingh <<a href="mailto:devtee@gmail.com" target="_blank">devtee@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>'ALAC List' <<a href="mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>, Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large Review<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">All in all, the responses are  very restrained. I so too hate for allegedly sensible people to insist they have a right to waste my limited and yes, valuable time. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">For I still don't believe the ALAC should just accept the narrative that neither the NCSG or the CPH give a tinker's damn about how the ALAC organize and does its business. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">That is, unless they intended the ALAC to enumerate the sundry ways their governance - and dare I say known positions! - may be characterised as inimical to the public interest.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">So I would've been more inclined to step on 'em to give up that bee in their bonnet.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On Sat, 26 May 2018, 2:22 pm Dev Anand Teelucksingh, <<a href="mailto:devtee@gmail.com" target="_blank">devtee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Great response. However on page 6 re: the ALT, this paragraph<br>
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"It is the ALAC’s understanding that many other groups in ICANN have a<br>
leadership team (often called an Executive Committee), including the Board<br>
and the NCSG. In many such cases, including the Board, this group actually<br>
does have significant decision-making rights"<br>
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The last sentence isn't clear as to "this group" is referring to, with a<br>
potential interpretation that "this group" is the ALT. I presume this is<br>
what you were intending<br>
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"It is the ALAC’s understanding that many other groups in ICANN (such as<br>
the Board and the NCSG) have a leadership team (often called an Executive<br>
Committee). Such leadership teams do have significant decision-making<br>
rights."<br>
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Kind Regards,<br>
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Dev Anand<br>
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On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:48 PM Maureen Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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> A good summary of our discussions.  We can now look forward to the<br>
Board's response/s to all the letters.<br>
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> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Alan Greenberg<br>
> <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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>> FYI.  Alan<br>
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>>> To: Cherine Chalaby <<a href="mailto:cherine.chalaby@board.icann.org" target="_blank">cherine.chalaby@board.icann.org</a>>, Khaled Koubaa <<br>
<a href="mailto:Khaled.koubaa@board.icann.org" target="_blank">Khaled.koubaa@board.icann.org</a>>, Leon Felipe Sanchez Ambia <<br>
<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>><br>
>>> From: Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
>>> Subject: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large Review<br>
>>> Cc: Board Operations <<a href="mailto:board-ops-team@icann.org" target="_blank">board-ops-team@icann.org</a>>, At-Large Staff <<br>
<a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" target="_blank">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>><br>
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>>> Dear Cherine and Khaled,<br>
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>>> Please find attached a letter to the OEC and the Board in reply to the<br>
recent CPH and NCSG letters regarding the At-Large Review.<br>
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>>> The letter was developed over the last three days with the involvement<br>
and support of the ALAC and its RALO Regional Leaders.<br>
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>>> Warm regards, Alan<br>
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