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    <p>Holy,</p>
    <p>We are talking about the 4 different mechanism because we need to
      figure this out. We have been working on this for a long time.  We
      are also working on what categories of projects to fund. We had
      created a set of examples but have had to revise them based on
      concerns by the Board but working on that as well. We cannot share
      these with you yet because they are not agreed.  We have also
      heard from various funds and charities and people who run these to
      learn about how they manage the funds. I am very much concerned
      about the funds being used to reduce ICANN's debt, but it seems
      that the ALAC members on Auction proceeds are split on this. Many
      want little or no money to go to shore up the reserves, while
      others prefer to have about 25% go. I too am concerned with the
      beneficiaries, but we cannot set that now because we cannot
      specify any group right now, just the types of activities we are
      interested and they type of capacity building.</p>
    <p>The survey went into all sorts of details such as which of these
      options would be cost effective, more transparent, more
      accountable, give more opportunities for stakeholder input. 
      Pretty any action that you can think of on these 4 mechanisms.</p>
    <p>Option to would be working with a foundation not a charity.  It
      is 4 but with more of hands on by ICANN and the multi-stakeholder
      community.  <br>
    </p>
    <p>So the question really Vanda meant to ask is which of these
      options would be cost effective, more transparent, more
      accountable, give more opportunities for stakeholder input. Answer
      could be different for each of these ideas.. Happy to answer any
      questions. I have already taken the survey so know about all the
      questions asked.</p>
    <p>Cheers,<br>
    </p>
    <p>Judith<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/6/2018 9:51 PM, Holly Raiche
      wrote:<br>
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      First - thank you Vanda with sharing this with ALAC. I hope this
      discussion can migrate somewhere beyond just this email so that
      everyone can easily find and comment on it.
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      <div>Now, to be devil’s advocate.  Why is the group seeking
        comment on how the funds are managed rather than how they are
        allocated.  It seems to me that the most important question is
        how the funds will be spent - and heaven knows ALAC has already
        contributed to this discussion.  Some of the suggestions over
        time have been that the funds should support applications from
        underserved areas, and/or help fund community (better defined)
        applications.  We also had concerns about some of the funds
        being used to reduce ICANN debt. But all that was about
        allocation - not the mechanism of allocation itself.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>So I am really less concerned with the allocation METHOD, and
        more concerned with the beneficiaries of the allocation.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>That said, I will comment on the options.</div>
      <div><br>
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      <div>Option One: I am a bit concerned with yet another Department
        within ICANN.  They are - we are told - cutting back on
        expenditure. Creating a new Department will be heading the other
        way.</div>
      <div>Option 2: I particularly do not favour Option 2 because it
        assumes that the money may be spent on charitable purposes.  If
        the decision is to assist underserved areas, the focus will be
        very different to ‘charitable purposes;</div>
      <div>Option 3 & 4: I’d prefer something like a Foundation - so
        that the funds really are separate, and so would be happier with
        Options 3 or 4. I would prefer Option 4,  but with the condition
        that if it is to evaluate proposals (good idea) then it must
        have multistakeholder membership and not simply be a creature of
        ICANN Org.  </div>
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      <div>Hope that helps</div>
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      <div>Holly</div>
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          <div>On 7 May 2018, at 8:19 am, Vanda Scartezini <<a
              href="mailto:vanda@scartezini.org" moz-do-not-send="true">vanda@scartezini.org</a>>
            wrote:</div>
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                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;">Dear
                    Alan, other  ALAC friends<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;"> In
                    the Auction proceeds CCWG we are asked to respond to
                    a survey.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;">Since
                    from the responses from this survey the proposals
                    for the report will be more defined, we were
                    encouraged to get some feedback from the group we
                    are acting with, in this case ALAC, and share our
                    ideas and get your feedbacks if possible<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;">There
                    are several questions but in my view some will
                    define others and I would like to hear from you,
                    your thoughts<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;"> For
                    me the relevant question is related to the model<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;">Please
                    take a look at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/CCWG+Charter"
                      style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration:
                      underline;" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/CCWG+Charter</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;">To
                    understand the question.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;"> All
                    financial resource shall be granted to projects
                    under the mission of ICANN and only for that.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;">Sorry
                    we have to finalize the survey till Miercoles May 9
                    , so if you can give feedback during Monday 7and
                    Tuesday8 I really appreciate.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;"> </span></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;">Here
                    the options for the most relevant question in my
                    opinion I would like to have some inputs before
                    respond the survey: which will be the best option,
                    think about process, cost, efficiency…<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;"> </span></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;">The
                    working group has come up with 4 different possible
                    mechanisms that could be considered:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                  <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in
                    0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri,
                    sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: 'Century
                      Gothic', serif;">A New ICANN Proceeds Allocation<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Department
                        is created as part of ICANN</b>, the
                      organisation (ICANN Org)- This department would be
                      part of ICANN Org and<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>take
                        full responsibility</b><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for
                      solicitation and evaluation of proposals, and
                      disbursement process.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                  <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in
                    0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri,
                    sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: 'Century
                      Gothic', serif;">New ICANN Proceeds Allocation<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Department
                        Created</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>as
                      part of ICANN Org which would<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>work in
                        collaboration with an existing charitable
                        organization(</b>s) Responsibilities for
                      solicitation and evaluation of proposals, and
                      disbursement process would be split between the
                      newly created department and the existing
                      charitable organization(s).<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                  <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in
                    0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri,
                    sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: 'Century
                      Gothic', serif;">A<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>new
                        structure would be created (e.g. ICANN
                        foundation</b>) - A new structure would be
                      created separate of ICANN Org which would be
                      responsible for solicitation and evaluation of
                      proposals, and disbursement process<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                </ol>
                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size:
                  12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;"> </span></div>
                <ol start="4" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top:
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                  <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in
                    0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri,
                    sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-family: 'Century
                        Gothic', serif;">An established entity/entities</span></b><span
                      style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;"><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(e.g.
                      foundation or fund) are used (<b>ICANN would
                        organize the oversight of processes to ensure
                        mission and fiduciary duties are met</b>) - An
                      stablished entity / entities (e.g. foundation or
                      fund) would be responsible for solicitation and
                      evaluation of proposals, and disbursement process.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                </ol>
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                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;"> </span></div>
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                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                    style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', serif;">Thank
                    you<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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