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    <p>HI Holly,</p>
    <p>We have a google doc of examples and are revising this based on
      response from the ICANN Board.  The Board did not want us to
      specify any possible groups who are examples of types that we
      would fund.  It has to be more ambiguous. We drew up this list of
      examples several months ago.  If we do another survey of what
      types of activities to fund, I will share it with you.  I do not
      think I can share the google doc with you, but will find out. The
      4 mechanisms we were deliberating on we also had in a google doc
      but it was decided to have a straw poll on it and that is why
      Vanda was asking for suggestions.</p>
    <p>Once we decide on the mechanism for distributing the funds
      whatever mechanism we choose, that group will follow the examples
      of types of activities and capacity building that can be funded. 
      We are now meeting every week to get all the work done before
      Panama.  I think we are presenting them<br>
    </p>
    <p>Hope that helps.</p>
    <p>Cheers,</p>
    <p>Judith<br>
    </p>
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Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
Hellerstein & Associates
3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
E-mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com">Judith@jhellerstein.com</a>   Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.jhellerstein.com">www.jhellerstein.com</a>
Linked In: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/">www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/</a>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/6/2018 11:10 PM, Holly Raiche
      wrote:<br>
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      Thanks Judith
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      <div>NowI am a bit confused.  You say the Committee is also
        working on what categories of projects to fund?  So is the
        Committee also asking for comments on that, or has it already
        had sufficient feedback.  And if it has, what are the outcomes?
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      <div>So what it appears from your statement is that the Committee
        is considering <b>both</b> where the funds should go, and the
        structure(s) to manage the distribution.  My comment was really
        to ask when/how the decision on where the money is spent is to
        be made, the extent to which that might impact on the
        appropriate mechanism for distribution of funds to agreed
        targets, and why we are discussing the distribution mechanism
        before there is agreement on agreed distribution targets.</div>
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      <div>Holly.<br>
        <div>
          <div>On 7 May 2018, at 12:53 pm, Judith Hellerstein <<a
              href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com"
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              <p>Holy,</p>
              <p>We are talking about the 4 different mechanism because
                we need to figure this out. We have been working on this
                for a long time.  We are also working on what categories
                of projects to fund. We had created a set of examples
                but have had to revise them based on concerns by the
                Board but working on that as well. We cannot share these
                with you yet because they are not agreed.  We have also
                heard from various funds and charities and people who
                run these to learn about how they manage the funds. I am
                very much concerned about the funds being used to reduce
                ICANN's debt, but it seems that the ALAC members on
                Auction proceeds are split on this. Many want little or
                no money to go to shore up the reserves, while others
                prefer to have about 25% go. I too am concerned with the
                beneficiaries, but we cannot set that now because we
                cannot specify any group right now, just the types of
                activities we are interested and they type of capacity
                building.</p>
              <p>The survey went into all sorts of details such as which
                of these options would be cost effective, more
                transparent, more accountable, give more opportunities
                for stakeholder input.  Pretty any action that you can
                think of on these 4 mechanisms.</p>
              <p>Option to would be working with a foundation not a
                charity.  It is 4 but with more of hands on by ICANN and
                the multi-stakeholder community.  <br>
              </p>
              <p>So the question really Vanda meant to ask is which of
                these options would be cost effective, more transparent,
                more accountable, give more opportunities for
                stakeholder input. Answer could be different for each of
                these ideas.. Happy to answer any questions. I have
                already taken the survey so know about all the questions
                asked.</p>
              <p>Cheers,<br>
              </p>
              <p>Judith<br>
              </p>
              <pre class="moz-signature" cols="80">_________________________________________________________________________
Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
Hellerstein & Associates
3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
E-mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Judith@jhellerstein.com</a>   Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.jhellerstein.com/" moz-do-not-send="true">www.jhellerstein.com</a>
Linked In: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/" moz-do-not-send="true">www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/</a>
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/6/2018 9:51 PM, Holly
                Raiche wrote:<br>
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                First - thank you Vanda with sharing this with ALAC. I
                hope this discussion can migrate somewhere beyond just
                this email so that everyone can easily find and comment
                on it.
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                <div>Now, to be devil’s advocate.  Why is the group
                  seeking comment on how the funds are managed rather
                  than how they are allocated.  It seems to me that the
                  most important question is how the funds will be spent
                  - and heaven knows ALAC has already contributed to
                  this discussion.  Some of the suggestions over time
                  have been that the funds should support applications
                  from underserved areas, and/or help fund community
                  (better defined) applications.  We also had concerns
                  about some of the funds being used to reduce ICANN
                  debt. But all that was about allocation - not the
                  mechanism of allocation itself.</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>So I am really less concerned with the allocation
                  METHOD, and more concerned with the beneficiaries of
                  the allocation.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>That said, I will comment on the options.</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>Option One: I am a bit concerned with yet another
                  Department within ICANN.  They are - we are told -
                  cutting back on expenditure. Creating a new Department
                  will be heading the other way.</div>
                <div>Option 2: I particularly do not favour Option 2
                  because it assumes that the money may be spent on
                  charitable purposes.  If the decision is to assist
                  underserved areas, the focus will be very different to
                  ‘charitable purposes;</div>
                <div>Option 3 & 4: I’d prefer something like a
                  Foundation - so that the funds really are separate,
                  and so would be happier with Options 3 or 4. I would
                  prefer Option 4,  but with the condition that if it is
                  to evaluate proposals (good idea) then it must have
                  multistakeholder membership and not simply be a
                  creature of ICANN Org.  </div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>Hope that helps</div>
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                <div>Holly</div>
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                    <div>On 7 May 2018, at 8:19 am, Vanda Scartezini
                      <<a href="mailto:vanda@scartezini.org"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">vanda@scartezini.org</a>>
                      wrote:</div>
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                               ALAC friends<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri,
                            sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:
                              'Century Gothic', serif;"> In the Auction
                              proceeds CCWG we are asked to respond to a
                              survey.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri,
                            sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:
                              'Century Gothic', serif;">Since from the
                              responses from this survey the proposals
                              for the report will be more defined, we
                              were encouraged to get some feedback from
                              the group we are acting with, in this case
                              ALAC, and share our ideas and get your
                              feedbacks if possible<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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                            sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:
                              'Century Gothic', serif;">There are
                              several questions but in my view some will
                              define others and I would like to hear
                              from you, your thoughts<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                            sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:
                              'Century Gothic', serif;"> For me the
                              relevant question is related to the model<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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                            sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:
                              'Century Gothic', serif;">Please take a
                              look at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/CCWG+Charter"
                                style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);
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                                moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/CCWG+Charter</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
                          <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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                            sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:
                              'Century Gothic', serif;">To understand
                              the question.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                            sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:
                              'Century Gothic', serif;"> All financial
                              resource shall be granted to projects
                              under the mission of ICANN and only for
                              that.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                            sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:
                              'Century Gothic', serif;">Sorry we have to
                              finalize the survey till Miercoles May 9 ,
                              so if you can give feedback during Monday
                              7and Tuesday8 I really appreciate.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                              'Century Gothic', serif;">Here the options
                              for the most relevant question in my
                              opinion I would like to have some inputs
                              before respond the survey: which will be
                              the best option, think about process,
                              cost, efficiency…<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                            sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:
                              'Century Gothic', serif;">The working
                              group has come up with 4 different
                              possible mechanisms that could be
                              considered:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                                style="font-family: 'Century Gothic',
                                serif;">A New ICANN Proceeds Allocation<span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Department
                                  is created as part of ICANN</b>, the
                                organisation (ICANN Org)- This
                                department would be part of ICANN Org
                                and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>take
                                  full responsibility</b><span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for
                                solicitation and evaluation of
                                proposals, and disbursement process.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                            <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin:
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                              font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                                style="font-family: 'Century Gothic',
                                serif;">New ICANN Proceeds Allocation<span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Department
                                  Created</b><span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>as
                                part of ICANN Org which would<span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>work
                                  in collaboration with an existing
                                  charitable organization(</b>s)
                                Responsibilities for solicitation and
                                evaluation of proposals, and
                                disbursement process would be split
                                between the newly created department and
                                the existing charitable organization(s).<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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                                style="font-family: 'Century Gothic',
                                serif;">A<span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>new
                                  structure would be created (e.g. ICANN
                                  foundation</b>) - A new structure
                                would be created separate of ICANN Org
                                which would be responsible for
                                solicitation and evaluation of
                                proposals, and disbursement process<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                          </ol>
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                            sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:
                              'Century Gothic', serif;"> </span></div>
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                            <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin:
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                              font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>An
                                established entity/entities</b><span
                                style="font-family: 'Century Gothic',
                                serif;"><span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(e.g.
                                foundation or fund) are used (<b>ICANN
                                  would organize the oversight of
                                  processes to ensure mission and
                                  fiduciary duties are met</b>) - An
                                stablished entity / entities (e.g.
                                foundation or fund) would be responsible
                                for solicitation and evaluation of
                                proposals, and disbursement process.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                          </ol>
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