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That link worked for me - March 23rd, Version 1.2.<br><br>
I haven't looked at it yet either, but I have asked Staff to set up a
Wiki policy page.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 08/04/2018 04:30 PM, Holly Raiche wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Thanks Bastiaan<br><br>
The link you sent doesn’t resolve but I think it’s the same
document. My strong suggestion - leadership team - is to put this
issue on the policy wiki - given that we have said this is an important
issue, we should comment on it<br><br>
Over to staff and the leadership team!<br><br>
Holly<br>
On 9 Apr 2018, at 1:19 am, Bastiaan Goslings
<<a href="mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net">
bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net</a>> wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi Holly<br><br>
Thanks a lot - very good to raise this issue.<br><br>
I assume the draft you refer to is
<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdpr-comments-ipbc-whois-access-accreditation-process-1-2-23mar18-en.pdf">
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdpr-comments-ipbc-whois-access-accreditation-process-1-2-23mar18-en.pdf</a>
?<br><br>
I haven’t read it yet...<br><br>
Bastiaan<br><br>
--<br>
Envoyé de mon iPhone<br><br>
On 8 Apr 2018, at 07:41, Holly Raiche
<<a href="mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net">
h.raiche@internode.on.net</a>> wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Folks<br><br>
As we said in the ALAC Statement on the GDPR – now being voted upon
– one of the outstanding critical issues will be accreditation of those
who are given access to personal information from the Whois database.
<br><br>
The IPC/BC community within the GNSO has developed a ‘<i>Draft
Accreditation and Access Model for non-public Whois Data</i>’ which
they are putting forward for discussion. Indeed, they recently held
a webinar on the model – at the usually impossible time for Australia.
They have also set up a mailing list on the issue and the documents they
used for the webinar are supposed to be available for those on the
mailing list. (I haven’t seen them as yet)<br><br>
The first thing to note about that model is that is that it is very
much the creature of the IPC/BC constituency. The NCSG were not
consulted and are developing their response to the accreditation
model. My understanding is that the Registries/Registrars also did
not provide input into that model. We should also comment - either
through a Google Doc or on the wiki, but - in a very short space of time
- we should be developing at least some response to the IPC/BC proposal.
No response to their model could otherwise be taken as tacit community
consent to its proposals. <br><br>
My two major issues with the model are as below. Please feel free
to comment as well.<br><br>
My basic issue with their Access Model is that it confuses data
‘use’ with the ‘purpose’ of collection. Under basic data protection
law, personal information can only be collected for specified and
legitimate purposes <b>of the data collector</b> (ICANN and
registrars) and not further processed in ways inconsistent with the
legitimate purpose(s). The ALAC has suggested that feedback from
the European DPAs will assist in determining the purposes consistent with
ICANN and the Registries purpose in collection of that data. The purpose
suggested in the Interim Model is not as broad as suggested by this
Access Model and, in my view, preferable. (See Annex A, Access
Model).<br><br>
The Access Model proposed suggests that, once parties are
accredited, they would gain access to all the Whois Information. In
my view, any access to personal information should be <b>in limited
circumstances only</b> - that blanket access not be given. In
a law enforcement context, search warrants generally need some kind of
judicial sanction, based on apprehension of possible criminality, before
premises can be searched and/or persons apprehended. While an access
request test probably would not be quite that stringent, I could not
support access seekers being given blanket permission to access personal
information generally; there should be a requirement for reasonable
grounds to suspect unlawful or harmful action in specific circumstances
(carefully defined) before access given. <br><br>
Holly<br>
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