<div dir="ltr"><div><div>OMG!<br></div>Holly, Alan, +1. Please keep me out from keyboard for a while...<br><br></div>--andrei<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-02-14 20:46 GMT+03:00 Kan Kaili <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kankaili@gmail.com" target="_blank">kankaili@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div><font size="2" face="宋体">Hi,</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="宋体">I fully agree with the comments initiated by Alan and
the points by Maureen, Holly and others.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="宋体">That is, ALAC should issue a statement against
establishing this office. I believe comments of Holly, Maureen and others
would suffice as the main body of the statement.</font></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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<div><font size="2" face="宋体">Kaili</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:9pt 宋体">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT:9pt 宋体;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>
<a title="maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank">Maureen Hilyard</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:9pt 宋体"><b>To:</b> <a title="h.raiche@internode.on.net" href="mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net" target="_blank">Holly Raiche</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:9pt 宋体"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">ALAC</a> ; <a title="alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">Alan
Greenberg</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:9pt 宋体"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:19
AM</div>
<div style="FONT:9pt 宋体"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ALAC] IMPORTANT: PAPER ON
OFFICE OF DIVERSITY PUBLIC COMMENTS</div>
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<div dir="ltr">+1 Holly</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Holly Raiche <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net" target="_blank">h.raiche@internode.on.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div style="WORD-WRAP:break-word">Folks
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<div>Part of me absolutely supports any moves that support diversity.
At one point in my life, I headed up the Equal Opportunity Unit in the Aust.
Broadcasting Corporation so diversity was my job. </div>
<div>Putting that aside, I have serious doubts about the concept in this
context. </div>
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<div>If they talking about just ICANN staff, there is already an ICANN HR
function that would (or should) be charged with addressing the
issue. </div>
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<div>If they talking about the various organisations that attend the
SOs/ACs? I have even more concern. Just for starters, it is up to each
SO/AC - and then individual members within each SO/AC as to who
participates. Is ICANN seriously going to tell GAC members that some of them
must send more women representatives/more Asian members/more members from
non-English speaking backgrounds? And who is going to tell each
registry/registrar whom they can send to represent them! </div>
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<div>If the idea is to have diversity in the make-up of ICANN committees, I
would hope the first basis for selection is qualifications for the
task.</div>
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<div>In short, I support Alan’s comments. If the concept is diversity
WITHIN ICANN staff, it is covered by HR. Otherwise, I have real doubts
about the concept, other than - at best -it could be just a score card.
</div>
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<div>Holly</div>
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<div>On 14 Feb 2018, at 11:18 am, Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_9090435872215780022m_-1148420540376197514Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div>
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<div>I would like to call your attention to this paper that was just
circulated by the CCWG-Accountability WS2 on Diversity.<br><br>The ALAC
was silent on the question of an Office of Diversity (OOD) that was
mentioned in the draft recommendations (see <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/Z5tEB" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/<wbr>Z5tEB</a>)<br><br>As
important as diversity is, I find it troublesome that ICANN might be
dedicating more bureaucracy to it. As I noted in my recent comments on the
Specific Reviews Operating Standards (<a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-reviews-standards-17oct17/2018q1/000008.html" target="_blank">
https://mm.icann.org/pipermail<wbr>/comments-reviews-standards-<wbr>17oct17/2018q1/000008.html</a>
), I find that for the best of reasons, ICANN is building more and more
complex process, rules and bureaucracy. At a time when it is clear we are
going to have increasing budget constraint, this must be controlled. If we
consider issues such as this as sacred , then we will see more and more
other more discretionary budgets cut (and I am predicting that if we don't
change our philosophy, budget issues will get MUCH
worse).<br><br>According to the original recommendations document (<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/ccwg-acct-ws2-draft-recs-diversity-26oct17-en.pdf" target="_blank">
https://www.icann.org/en/syste<wbr>m/files/files/ccwg-acct-ws2-<wbr>draft-recs-diversity-26oct17-<wbr>en.pdf</a>
): The role of this office would be to independently support, record and
keep track of issues including complaints from the community on diversity
issues within the organization.<br><br>I presume that by "organization"
the document means all of ICANN (ICANN Organization as the staff are now
known, the volunteer community and the Board). For ICANN Organization, I
see this as falling directly under Human Resources and the Complaints
Officer. For the volunteer part of ICANN, and the Board, I think it quite
reasonable to keep records but that does not warrant a staffed office.
Selection of volunteers is not done centrally, and complaints presumably
should go to the Ombudsman.<br><br>Should the ALAC issue a further
statement on this? And if so, what are your
views?<br><br>Alan<br><br><br>
<blockquote class="m_9090435872215780022m_-1148420540376197514cite" type="cite">From: Bernard
Turcotte <<a href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com" target="_blank">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>><br>Date: Mon, 12 Feb
2018 14:28:23 -0500<br>To: ws2-diversity <<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org" target="_blank">ws2-diversity@icann.org</a>><br>Subject:
[Ws2-diversity] CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Divers<wbr>ity - PAPER ON OFFICE
OF DIVERSITY PUBLIC COMMENTS<br><br>All,<br><br>As promised at the last
meeting of the diversity sub-group please find below and attached the
document prepared by Fiona and Rafik on this topic.<br><br>Bernard
Turcotte<br>ICANN Staff Support to the
CCWG-Accountability-WS2<br><br>For Fiona and Rafik.<br><br>
<div align="center"><b><u>DIVERISTY SUB-GROUP<br></u></b></div><br>
<div align="center"><b><u><br></u></b> </div><br>
<div align="center"><b><u>PAPER ON OFFICE OF DIVERSITY PUBLIC
COMMENTS<br></u></b></div><br> <br><br><b>Preamble:<br></b><br><b> <br></b><br>The
Diversity sub-group presented a report for public comments that
presented diversity at ICANN identified by a number of elements by which
diversity may be characterized, measured and reported. The report was
informed by feedback from ICANN Supporting Organization(SO)/Advisory
Committee (AC)/groups through a Diversity Questionnaire. In the report
the Sub-group proposes a number of recommendations by which ICANN may
define, measure, report, support and promote diversity. It also
indicated that there was a lack of consensus on the establishment on an
office of diversity and sought to receive public comments on the
position of the office of diversity. <br><br> <br><br><b>Summary of
Responses from Public Comments:<br></b><br><b> </b>
<ul>
<li>Total of 15 comments </li></ul><br>
<ul>
<ul>
<li>6 had no comments on an office of diversity
</li><li>3 supported an office of diversity or a panel
</li><li>3 supported an office of diversity
</li><li>3 rejected the notion of an office of diversity.
</li></ul></ul><br>
<ul>
<li>Breakdown by major categories </li></ul><br>
<ul>
<ul>
<li>7 SO/ACs/Board (those which will have to approve the WS2 final
report): </li></ul></ul><br>
<ul>
<ul>
<ul>
<li>4 had no comments
</li><li>3 Rejected the notion of an office of diversity
</li></ul></ul></ul><br>
<ul>
<ul>
<li>2 Governments: </li></ul></ul><br>
<ul>
<ul>
<ul>
<li>1 had no comments on an office of diversity
</li><li>1 supported an office of diversity </li></ul></ul></ul><br>
<ul>
<ul>
<li>6 Individuals/Associations: </li></ul></ul><br>
<ul>
<ul>
<ul>
<li>1 had no comments on an office of diversity
</li><li>3 supported an office of diversity or a panel
</li><li>2 supported an office of diversity
</li></ul></ul></ul><br> <br><br> <br><br><b>Summary of
Positions relating to the OOD from Public
Comments:<br></b><br><b> <br></b><br>1.
Establishment of an office of diversity or a panel similar to what is
proposed in the Ombuds
recommendations.<br><br>2. Establishment
of an office of diversity<br><br>3.
Rejection of an office of diversity in favour of staff performing this
work. <br><br> <br><br><b>Required Actions:<br></b><br>The
Sub-group on diversity does not have one solid position from the public
comments but has instead received a number of options that need to be
discussed further and weighed in order to determine how oversight of
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