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, where each version would have a date and the editors name with the latest being on top. I see no drawback to this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tijani BEN JEMAA<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 03, 2018 9:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Maureen Hilyard<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ALAC; Alan Greenberg<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ALAC] Suggested revision of At-Large Policy Development template<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Le 2 févr. 2018 à 09:09, Maureen Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If we are working towards an appropriate statement that reflects all related views then, does it matter? The page can be as long as we like as long as we get to the end product. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You asked for our opinions but you are still stating your own as THE view. (and I'm not being grumpy about it, Im just stating my piece. :))<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And as you say it happens infrequently, but when it does, why are we sticking to a dumb rule.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This happens relatively infrequently. Why create a new process that requires staff intervention when simply stacking the version in the box now called DRAFT(s) will do. And it allows for more than two version is required?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But as Holly said, sometimes you just need another space to reorganise your thoughts before it becomes the final draft... although sometimes it ends up as the final draft..
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But you are only currently given 2 options, first and final.. <br>
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There should be two boxes to start off with, and the penholder can ask for another one if required as a transition section before the final statement . But it should be highlighted in another colour what changes have been made.
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When I was drafting more statements, I also would often post my "first draft" in the comment area and move it up if it had general acceptance. But there will always be cases where there are multiple draft versions posted and I was trying to find a really easy
path for doing that without losing history along the way. Having staff create new boxes along the ways seems likea much more challenging way to address the problem...<o:p></o:p></p>
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I think there is room for having personal comments remaining at the bottom of the wiki page, but drafts of the statement should be able to be inserted as they develop. It might mean teaching penholders how to create these boxes for new drafts or asking the
new policy support staff person to create one for them.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Holly Raiche <<a href="mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net" target="_blank"> h.raiche@internode.on.net</a>> wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Makes sense to me. When I died to post a ‘firirst draft’ of f the privacy stuff, I couldn’t, and so put stuff in tn the ‘comment’ ¬â„¢ space. While that whole wiki reflects pretty much what the
discussion was, it doesn̢۪t follow the concept of firfirst and final draft<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On 2 Feb 2018, at 6:40 am, Maureen Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank"> maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Sounds good to me because when you don't see the developments as new contributions are incorporated into the statements, it may seem as if its only just been ONE or only a few contributors<o:p></o:p></p>
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Some statements go through several transitions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 8:42 AM, Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a> > wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">It has been pointed out to me that the template we use has a space for "First Draft" and then "Final Draft". This works for issues that do not generate a lot of dialogue and revision of the statement. For such statements,
there is no specific place to post the revised version(s). Simply changing the first draft does not really work, because then we are left with Wiki comments on that draft that refer back to something that is no longer there (unless you go to the trouble of
finding the correct earlier version).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I suggest that we change the title from "FIRST DRAFT SUBMITTED" to "DRAFT STATEMENTS" and add instructions saying that if multiple draft versions are posted, old versions should remain, with the newer version posted
at the top of the box, prefixed with the date posted and author, and separated from earlier versions by a horizontal line.<o:p></o:p></p>
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That way we have a full history of the draft evolution.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Does anyone see a reason not to do this?<o:p></o:p></p>
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