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<p>Hi Seun,</p>
<p>The idea is not to have a significant sum spent on any one time
or one item but to use it for capacity building and training to
benefit the iCANN mission. As the amount of money is unknown, we
were just talking about percentages. However, there is not much
support among the participants for up to 20% <br>
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<p>Lots of work needed on capacity building which at large groups
can definitely benefit from <br>
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<p>Judith<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/26/2017 2:51 AM, Seun Ojedeji
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<div>Well no decision is made yet on the percentage to allot to
fund the reserve. While we must not necessarily agree on the
limit, I will suggest we do so. <br>
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<div>More importantly because I do have a feeling that an
operational and financial buoyant ICANN will be in the
interest of At-large than having significant part of the
auction funds expended on one of project (which by the way may
be very competitive and may not really have direct win for
AtLarge folks). Its one of the reason I would support up to a
20%<br>
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Judith Hellerstein <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>Hi Seun,</div>
<div id="m_-3234902901491778371AppleMailSignature">As
explained by either Xavier or Sam Eisner using some of
the funds for the reserve is legal however, people on
the group at least at the time they made the
presentation felt that while not illegal sends the
wrong message and so they preferred not to do it. Also
the consensus from the call and the survey taken by
members and participants felt that any amount going to
replenish the reserve be under 10%. I for one agree with
that as the people who spoke about this made a very good
case. Interested to hear what others have to say, but
as I and Maureen said the group has moved passed this
point many months ago and is now discussing the
frameworks on how the structure that manages the money
and gives the grants will function. Since we are no
longer discussing this issue, I do not think it is fair
for us to argue on this anymore. We need to focus on the
issues now being discussed</div>
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<div id="m_-3234902901491778371AppleMailSignature">Happy
to discuss this with you and others</div>
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<div id="m_-3234902901491778371AppleMailSignature">Judith<br>
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On Oct 25, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Alan Greenberg <<a
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Thanks Seun.<br>
<br>
There is no question of the "legality" of ICANN
using the
auction find to top up the reset. Or at least I
have never heard mention
of such a concern.<br>
<br>
Whether operating costs are reasonable and
justified is an ongoing issue.
It might be addressed in the current public
comment, or in the one to be
opened on the FY19 Plan and Budget.<br>
<br>
Alan<br>
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On October 25, 2017 4:49:51 AM GMT+01:00, Seun
Ojedeji
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<dd>Hello Alan,<br>
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<dd>On the assumption that ICANN can legally use
part of the proceeds to
fund reserve, I'd be also can live with up to
a 20% of whatever is the
accessible amount of the AP.<br>
</dd>
<dd>However on a related note, I do personally
think ICANN operating cost
is quite on the high side in the first place
and while effort is being
made to get a 1 year reserve, i will be
interested to know how much
effort the Board is putting on 2 specific
items:<br>
</dd>
<dd>1. Avoid continuous increase on the
operating cost which could then
make a year target meaningless.<br>
</dd>
<dd>2. Minimize operating cost as much as
possible (of course without
affecting the SO/AC part of things) so a 1
year reserve could end up
sufficient for many more months when the need
arises.<br>
</dd>
<dd>Regards<br>
</dd>
<dd>Sent from my mobile
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<dd>Kindly excuse brevity and typos<br>
</dd>
<dd>On Oct 25, 2017 2:07 AM, "Alan Greenberg"
<<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>
> wrote:
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<dd>This is a briefing note in preparation
for the discussion in AbuDhabi
current scheduled for 9:30 am, local time,
on Sunday.<br>
</dd>
<dd>As is common for non-profit
organizations, and particularly ones
where their income or expenses might be
subject to unexpected
fluctuations, ICANN maintains a "Reserve
Fund" to allow it to
cover unexpected expenses or below
expectations income. Currently the
target for the fund is one year's regular
expenses, but due to unexpected
expenses (primarily associated with the
IANA transition and
accountability exercise), it is below
that. There is an open Public
Comment where you can find out more about
the fund -
<a
href="https://community.icann.org/x/GJNEB"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://community.icann.org/x/<wbr>GJNEB</a>.<br>
</dd>
<dd>It has been suggested that some portion
of the proceeds of the new
gTLD Auctions (currently about $235m,
although there is some chance it
could be as low as $105m) be used to help
build back the reserve.<br>
</dd>
<dd>Excluding this possibility, the target
use of the Auction Funds will
be projects that are aligned with ICANN's
mission and enhance the
Internet (wording still under debate).<br>
</dd>
<dd>This brief discussion will be to solicit
thoughts on whether this
would be a good idea or not.<br>
</dd>
<dd>Alan<br>
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