<div dir="auto"><div>Hello Alan,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kindly find inline:<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Sent from my mobile<br>Kindly excuse brevity and typos</div></div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 6, 2017 6:56 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
Thanks for raising this Seun.<br><br>
I am not sure that characterizing my position as wanting to go beyond
ICANN's mission" is quite accurate.</div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">SO: FWIW, It's good to read that.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div> The</div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div> .<br><br>
So we are constrained. But I think it is really important that we use the
mission and core values as a constraint, and not the driving
objective.<br></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">SO: +1</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br>
We are talking about well over #200,000,000 (exactly how much will depend
on how long the funds last, because there will be growth along the way).
This is a one time opportunity to do some real good, and I would like to
help ensure that we have as much flexibility as absolutely possible.</div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">SO: +1</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<br>.<br><br>
We do not want to endanger ICANN, but we also do not want to squander the
money. If we ONLY do things that are strictly within ICANN's scope in how
it uses its operational funds, then we may as well just roll the money
into the ICANN operational budget. We need to be innovative.<br></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">SO: Hmm...we should not be very strict but at the same time we have to be mindful of being within ICANN mission. The funds for instance should not be used to digitize content of a museum library. I also don't think the idea of staying within ICANN mission implies we should put the funds into ICANN operational budget. There are many many activities/projects within ICANN mission that their budget doesn't cover and rolling back a one time amount into operational budget isn't a good idea for not-for-profit.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br>
My classic example is Internet Exchange Points. They are not what I would
consider something that is strictly within ICANN's mission. But they are
very important to parts of our community including ISPs and the RIRs (the
second N in ICANN). And they even (typically) require Autonomous System
Numbers, one of the unique identifiers that we are here for. And they
create great benefit for the "greater Internet community", and
perhaps even more important, they help strenghten the relatively weak
infrastructure in places not necessarily well served by the
Internet.<br></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">SO: IMO am not sure why you think IX probably falls outside of ICANN mission. Espcially if it comes to capacity building and providing relevant resources to get them more operational to ensure open Internet because some IX does host registry copies. Section IV of ICANN mission seem to allow that. That said, I don't think having ICANN build an IX from scratch for instance should be within scope.</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br>
More specifically, I want the CCWG to leave the door as wide open as
possible while meeting the Board's concerns, to allow project requesters
to be innovative in creating viable links from their projects to the
constraints that we must meet.<br></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">SO: Okay so it seem we do not necessarily have a significantly different view on this after all.</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br>
I hope this helps.<br></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">SO: Yes it does.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br>
Alan<div class="elided-text"><br><br>
<br><br>
At 06/09/2017 03:29 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<br><br>
</div><blockquote type="cite" class="m_-5206662039232320372cite"><div class="elided-text">Hello,<br><br>
There has been ongoing discussion in reaction to the attached letter from
the Board. The discussion has been around using the auction funds for
purpose beyond the ICANN mission. I was of the opinion that her mission
though has a scope was broad enough to ensure the funds have a global
reach as much as possible.<br>
However I have also noticed some members (notably Alan) have the view
that the funds should be used beyond the ICANN mission scope. While it's
not important that we share same opinion I also don't want to take
lightly veterans view on this matter, perhaps am missing something
:-)<br><br>
Specifically, is there a disadvantage for At-Large if the auction funds
is used within ICANN mission that makes it so important for us to support
acting outside of the ICANN mission?<br><br>
The specific thread can be followed here:<br>
<a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-auctionproceeds/2017-September/000470.html" target="_blank">
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/<wbr>ccwg-auctionproceeds/2017-<wbr>September/000470.html</a>
<br><br>
I like to read comments from folks here to better inform my
participation.<br><br>
Regards<br>
Sent from my mobile<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos<br>
---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: "Erika Mann"
<<a href="mailto:erika@erikamann.com" target="_blank">erika@erikamann.com</a>><br>
Date: Sep 4, 2017 3:29 PM<br>
Subject: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Fwd: Board reply to CCWG-AP<br>
To:
<<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank">
ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><wbr>><br>
Cc: <br><br>
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<dd>Dear All - <br><br>
</dd><dd>herewith I'm forwarding Steve's reply to our letter. <br><br>
</dd><dd>We will have a first exchange on Thursday this week, during our CCWG
AP call. I send Steve already a quick reply, saying that we will discuss
the Board letter then for the first time. <br><br>
</dd><dd>Best, <br>
</dd><dd>Erika<br><br>
<br>
</dd><dd>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
</dd><dd>From: Steve Crocker
<<a href="mailto:steve.crocker@board.icann.org" target="_blank">
steve.crocker@board.icann.org</a>><br>
</dd><dd>Date: Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 3:19 PM<br>
</dd><dd>Subject: Board reply to CCWG-AP<br>
</dd><dd>To: Erika Mann
<<a href="mailto:erika@erikamann.com" target="_blank">erika@erikamann.com</a>>,
Ching Chiao
<<a href="mailto:chiao@brandma.co" target="_blank">chiao@brandma.co</a>>, Marika
Konings
<<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank">marika.konings@icann.org</a>
><br>
</dd><dd>Cc: Steve Crocker
<<a href="mailto:steve.crocker@board.icann.org" target="_blank">
steve.crocker@board.icann.org</a>><wbr>, Marika Konings
<<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank">marika.konings@icann.org</a>
>, Icann-board ICANN
<<a href="mailto:icann-board@icann.org" target="_blank">icann-board@icann.org</a>>,
Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@apc.org" target="_blank">avri@apc.org</a>>,
"Sarah B. Deutsch"
<<a href="mailto:sarahbdeutsch@gmail.com" target="_blank">sarahbdeutsch@gmail.com</a>
>, Board Operations
<<a href="mailto:Board-Ops-Team@icann.org" target="_blank">Board-Ops-Team@icann.org</a>
>, Sally Costerton
<<a href="mailto:sally.costerton@icann.org" target="_blank">
sally.costerton@icann.org</a>>, Samantha Eisner
<<a href="mailto:Samantha.Eisner@icann.org" target="_blank">
Samantha.Eisner@icann.org</a>>, Lauren Allison
<<a href="mailto:lauren.allison@icann.org" target="_blank">lauren.allison@icann.org</a>
><br><br>
<br>
</dd><dd>Dear Erika and Ching,<br>
</dd><dd> <br>
</dd><dd>Thank you for your letter received on May 22, 2017 on behalf of the
Cross Community Working Group on New gTLD Auction Proceeds (CCWG-AP) in
response to the Board email of March 2nd 2017.<br>
</dd><dd> <br>
</dd><dd>On behalf of the Board, I am delighted to see that we are aligned in
our thinking regarding the points discussed in the original email.
Specifically, in response to your letter, please find attached a letter
including additional acknowledgements and requested clarifications.<br>
</dd><dd> <br>
</dd><dd>Thank you again for your efforts leading this work. <br>
</dd><dd><font color="#888888"> <br>
</font></dd><dd><font color="#888888">Steve<br>
</font></dd><dd><font color="#888888"> <br>
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