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    <p>HI Seun,</p>
    <p>I agree with you. I do not see why we need to change the model
      that we have used for other CCWG or other working groups.  I am
      also for what Seun is suggesting as a role for participants who
      are not members, but I know that is the decision of that
      particular Working Group. I am not for divergent opinions just for
      the sake of it, but I am also not for forced opinions either.
      People should feel free to express their selves and if they want
      to put in a divergent view point we could try and understand why
      that is the case and what are the reasons as perhaps it could be 
      mis-understanding  or perhaps there are cultural or other issues
      that are leading for this divergence.  Possibly after talking to
      the person we car resolve these issues and come out with a
      coherent and unified response. But if not, there is nothing wrong
      with a minority viewpoint.</p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Judith<br>
    </p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/28/2017 11:30 AM, Seun Ojedeji
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAD_dc6iq8RvJGw_FmgGtGUQmzZ-U-hOzXF6hDpcZyYR2_VcFxg@mail.gmail.com">
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          <div>Hello,<br>
            <br>
          </div>
          I think what may be important is that there is an opportunity
          to understand our diverse view and that IMO should not imply
          that we then ensure to have a single position. However there
          are issues that may so end up to be shared by us all and when
          some don't happen that way we shouldn't attempt to make it so.
          Our diversity should ultimately be our strength.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>That said, it does seem to me that "how we participate" is
          the only thing formerly on the table for discussion now hence
          there are no Geo topics related issues at the moment. I look
          forward to participating in this particular WG (I hope there
          will be option for participants apart from the selected 5?)
          and yes I think we should take note of the Evan's caution.<br>
        </div>
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        Regards<br>
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 3:33 PM,
            Tijani BEN JEMAA <span dir="ltr"><<a
                href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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              <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi Yrjô,
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>My comment in line</div>
                <div><br>
                  <div><span>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div>Le 28 août 2017 à 13:12, Yrjö Länsipuro
                          <<a
                            href="mailto:yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com</a>>
                          a écrit :</div>
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                            <div
                              style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Dear
                              all,</div>
                            <div
                              style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><br>
                            </div>
                            <div
                              style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Since
                              this topic is an important one   in the
                              developing ALAC-GAC relationship, I offer
                              my opinion in my liaison role, even though
                              I'm not an ALAC member.</div>
                            <div
                              style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><br>
                            </div>
                            <div
                              style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">In
                              an negotiating situation, a party is the
                              the more influential, the more coherent
                              stand it can take. Thats why I support
                              Vanda's approach, ie. to try to develop
                              one line of argument , even though it
                              itself will be a compromise among
                              different opinions among us.</div>
                          </div>
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                      </blockquote>
                      <br>
                    </span><font color="#002e7a">And that’s exactly what
                      we have to avoid (having a single position
                      consisting in a compromise between all opinions).
                      You mean a flat position. What is the added value
                      of having arranged position? As Maureen said, it
                      is an orchestration.</font></div>
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                                        BEN JEMAA</span></b></div>
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                                      style="color:rgb(54,95,145)">Executive
                                      Director</span></div>
                                  <div><span
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                                      Federation of Internet
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                                I think that the process suggested by
                                Alan would be best suited for leading to
                                that result.</div>
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                                style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Best,</div>
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                              <div
                                style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Yrjö<br>
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                                    face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b><span
class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">alac-bounces@atlarge-lis<wbr>ts.icann.org</a>
                                    <<a
                                      href="mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.ic<wbr>ann.org</a>>
                                    on behalf of Vanda Scartezini <<a
                                      href="mailto:vanda@scartezini.org"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">vanda@scartezini.org</a>><br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b><span
                                      class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
                                    August 28, 2017 3:11 PM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b><span
                                      class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tijani
                                    BEN JEMAA; Alan Greenberg<br>
                                    <b>Cc:</b><span
                                      class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span>ALAC<br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b><span
                                      class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                                    [ALAC] Discussion: WT5 of PDP on New
                                    gTLD Subsequent Procedures</font>
                                  <div> </div>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>Our region may have different
                                        opinions , ones more aligned
                                        with GAC others more aligned
                                        with GNSO point of view. </div>
                                      <div>Whatever the opinions, I
                                        believe ALAC shall listen all
                                        points and build one line of
                                        argument, with limits to allow
                                        concessions during the debate.</div>
                                      <div> My 2 cents</div>
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                                        style="font-weight:bold">From:<span
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href="mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank"
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                                      on behalf of Tijani BEN JEMAA <<a
href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn</a>><br>
                                      <span style="font-weight:bold">Date:<span
class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Monday,
                                      August 28, 2017 at 02:55<br>
                                      <span style="font-weight:bold">To:<span
class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Alan
                                      Greenberg <<a
                                        href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
                                      <span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:<span
class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>'ALAC
                                      List' <<a
                                        href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>
                                      <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:<span
class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Re:
                                      [ALAC] Discussion: WT5 of PDP on
                                      New gTLD Subsequent Procedures<br>
                                    </div>
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                                    <span>
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id="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"
style="border-left-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-left-width:5px;border-left-style:solid;padding:0px
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                                              color="#002e7a">Yes Alan,
                                              we need all communities
                                              opinion be expressed
                                              freely, without any
                                              control.</font>
                                            <div><font color="#002e7a">Even
                                                if a region has a unique
                                                opinion, different from
                                                the all other views, its
                                                opinion must have its
                                                way to be expressed.
                                                Trying to shape the
                                                position of our
                                                representatives would be
                                                a kind of control.</font></div>
                                            <div><font color="#002e7a"><br>
                                              </font></div>
                                            <div><font color="#002e7a">I
                                                feel really
                                                inconfortable to
                                                continue this
                                                discussion. I do wish
                                                that we operate exactly
                                                as we did in the CCWG
                                                Accountability. It
                                                worked well; Why change
                                                a system that worked
                                                well?????</font></div>
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                                                  <div>Le 27 août 2017 à
                                                    22:11, Alan
                                                    Greenberg <<a
                                                      href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"
                                                      target="_blank"
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>>
                                                    a écrit :</div>
                                                  <br
class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-interchange-newline">
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                                                    <div>Tijani, why do
                                                      you say that
                                                      attempting to
                                                      ensure that
                                                      multiple views are
                                                      represented will
                                                      result in a
                                                      "neutral" group.
                                                      It could be that
                                                      there are only two
                                                      main views and a
                                                      majority of
                                                      At-large espouses
                                                      one of them.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      The difference
                                                      between this and
                                                      other groups that
                                                      we have worked in
                                                      is that in most
                                                      other cases,
                                                      At-Large to a
                                                      great extent was
                                                      speaking from a
                                                      single point of
                                                      view, perhaps with
                                                      minor variations.
                                                      That *may* be the
                                                      case here, or not.
                                                      That is what I was
                                                      trying to
                                                      determine.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      And the question I
                                                      was asking is that
                                                      IF there are
                                                      multiple views, do
                                                      we want to try to
                                                      ensure through the
                                                      selection process
                                                      that they are
                                                      represented? That
                                                      is a separate
                                                      question from
                                                      whether we ensure
                                                      that we have five
                                                      regional reps
                                                      which so far there
                                                      is strong support
                                                      for (as expected).<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      To use your own
                                                      words, this is in
                                                      the interest of
                                                      diversity.
                                                      Diversity of views
                                                      and not only
                                                      geographic
                                                      regions.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Alan<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      At 27/08/2017
                                                      01:24 PM, Tijani
                                                      BEN JEMAA wrote:<br>
                                                      <blockquote
                                                        type="cite"
                                                        class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792cite"><font
color="#002E7A">Alan,</font><br>
                                                        <font
                                                          color="#002E7A"><br>
                                                          You know that
                                                          I hate
                                                          disagreeing
                                                          with you. But
                                                          when you say
                                                          Â«  we may
                                                          consider
                                                          opinion
                                                          balance rather
                                                          than regional
                                                          balance, the
                                                          difference is
                                                          very clear and
                                                          the divergence
                                                          is there.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          We don’t
                                                          need to go to
                                                          the WT with a
                                                          single
                                                          harmonized,
                                                          balanced
                                                          (neutral at
                                                          the end of the
                                                          day) view, but
                                                          bring the
                                                          views of our
                                                          respective
                                                          communities.
                                                          That’s the
                                                          interest of
                                                          the diversity.<br>
                                                          The model of
                                                          our
                                                          participation
                                                          in the CCWG is
                                                          be followed in
                                                          my opinion.<br>
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                                                        <b>Tijani BEN
                                                          JEMAA<br>
                                                        </b>Executive
                                                        Director<br>
                                                        Mediterranean
                                                        Federation of
                                                        Internet
                                                        Associations (<b>FMAI</b>)<br>
                                                        Phone: <a
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value="+21698330114" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">+216 98 330
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                                                        <blockquote
                                                          type="cite"
                                                          class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792cite">Le
                                                          27 août 2017
                                                          Ã  16:41, Alan
                                                          Greenberg <<a
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a><span
class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span>>
                                                          a Ã©crit :<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Tijani and
                                                          others,<span
                                                          class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          You are
                                                          disagreeing
                                                          with one small
                                                          POSSIBLE
                                                          consequence of
                                                          what I
                                                          suggested and
                                                          I am not sure
                                                          to what extent
                                                          you are
                                                          disagreeing
                                                          with the main
                                                          part, that we
                                                          TRY to ensure
                                                          that all major
                                                          viewpoints
                                                          held by
                                                          At-Large
                                                          people are
                                                          represented.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          It is fine to
                                                          say that if we
                                                          don't like the
                                                          outcome, we
                                                          will not
                                                          ratify it, but
                                                          just as in our
                                                          reply to Rec 1
                                                          of the review,
                                                          we say we are
                                                          MUCH better
                                                          off if we can
                                                          effect the
                                                          outcome so it
                                                          is good,
                                                          rather than
                                                          just object
                                                          afterwards, in
                                                          this case, we
                                                          need to ensure
                                                          that our
                                                          participants
                                                          in the process
                                                          represent the
                                                          range of
                                                          views.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Alan<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          At 27/08/2017
                                                          06:53 AM,
                                                          Tijani BEN
                                                          JEMAA wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite"
                                                          class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792cite"><font
color="#002E7A">Bonjour Alan,</font><br>
                                                          <font
                                                          color="#002E7A"><br>
                                                          I’m afraid
                                                          I don’t
                                                          share your
                                                          approach.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          What you are
                                                          proposing is
                                                          to send to the
                                                          WT a neutral
                                                          (balanced)
                                                          opinion. You
                                                          even propose
                                                          to have
                                                          opinion
                                                          balance rather
                                                          than regional
                                                          balance.<br>
                                                          This means
                                                          that if we
                                                          have more than
                                                          a region with
                                                          the same
                                                          opinion, we
                                                          have to take
                                                          only one and
                                                          take 2 or more
                                                          from a region
                                                          with various
                                                          opinions. What
                                                          would be the
                                                          result????<br>
                                                          Regions much
                                                          more
                                                          represented
                                                          than others
                                                          for an issue
                                                          about
                                                          geographic
                                                          names…¦..<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I believe we
                                                          should act
                                                          exactly as we
                                                          did for the
                                                          CCWG: select 5
                                                          members from
                                                          the 5 regions,
                                                          and each
                                                          member
                                                          expresses his
                                                          opinion in the
                                                          WT. The final
                                                          report of the
                                                          WT will be
                                                          ratified by
                                                          the Chartering
                                                          organizations,
                                                          and that’s
                                                          where the
                                                          opinion of the
                                                          ALAC as a
                                                          whole will be
                                                          shaped.  (</font><b>with
                                                          the
                                                          understanding
                                                          that we agree
                                                          to the terms
                                                          of reference,
                                                          and that we
                                                          are not bound
                                                          by the
                                                          outcomes until
                                                          and unless we
                                                          ratify them at
                                                          the conclusion
                                                          of WT5 work.</b>)<br>
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                                                          <b>Tijani BEN
                                                          JEMAA<br>
                                                          </b>Executive
                                                          Director<br>
                                                          Mediterranean
                                                          Federation of
                                                          Internet
                                                          Associations (<b>FMAI</b>)<br>
                                                          Phone: <a
                                                          href="tel:+216%2098%20330%20114"
value="+21698330114" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">+216 98 330
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                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite"
                                                          class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792cite">Le
                                                          27 août
                                                          2017 Ãƒ 
                                                          03:29, Alan
                                                          Greenberg <<a
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a><span
class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span>>
                                                          a ÃƒÂ©crit :<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The GNSO PDP
                                                          on New gTLD
                                                          Subsequent
                                                          Procedures has
                                                          decided to
                                                          initiate a
                                                          Work Track on
                                                          the use
                                                          geographic
                                                          names at the
                                                          top level, and
                                                          the ALAC,
                                                          along with the
                                                          GNSO, ccNSO
                                                          and GAC, has
                                                          been invited
                                                          to
                                                          participate.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          As a first
                                                          step,
                                                          co-leaders are
                                                          being
                                                          requested and
                                                          as you know
                                                          from<span
                                                          class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/alac/2017-August/010630.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://atlarge-lists.ican<wbr>n.org/pipermail/alac/2017-Augu<wbr>st/010630.html</a><span
class="m_5136827732460725261m_4353503581383577792Apple-converted-space"> </span>,
                                                          the ALAC is
                                                          seeking
                                                          someone to
                                                          take on this
                                                          role on behalf
                                                          of the ALAC.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The
                                                          co-leaders,
                                                          once selected,
                                                          will work with
                                                          the PDP WG
                                                          Co-Chairs to
                                                          establish the
                                                          further
                                                          procedures and
                                                          the full terms
                                                          of reference
                                                          will likely be
                                                          established by
                                                          the WT itself
                                                          However, it is
                                                          envisaged that
                                                          this new Work
                                                          Track will
                                                          operate with
                                                          procedures
                                                          comparable to
                                                          a CCWG. If
                                                          this is indeed
                                                          what happens,
                                                          the Work
                                                          Track, unlike
                                                          most GNSO PDP
                                                          efforts, may
                                                          include:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          - Members
                                                          formally
                                                          appointed by
                                                          the AC/SOs;<br>
                                                          -
                                                          Participants;<br>
                                                          - A decision
                                                          process
                                                          wherein
                                                          Members only
                                                          may take part
                                                          (used only if
                                                          necessary)<br>
                                                          - The .<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The ALAC needs
                                                          to decide how
                                                          it will
                                                          participate,
                                                          and the
                                                          criteria for
                                                          selecting
                                                          Members
                                                          (presuming
                                                          this is the
                                                          path chosen).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The first
                                                          part, I think,
                                                          is relatively
                                                          simple. I
                                                          believe the
                                                          ALAC should
                                                          agree to be a
                                                          full
                                                          participant
                                                          with the
                                                          understanding
                                                          that we agree
                                                          to the terms
                                                          of reference,
                                                          and that we
                                                          are not bound
                                                          by the
                                                          outcomes until
                                                          and unless we
                                                          ratify them at
                                                          the conclusion
                                                          of WT5 work.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The selection
                                                          of Members (if
                                                          there are any)
                                                          is more
                                                          complex.
                                                          Normally, we
                                                          are allotted
                                                          five Members
                                                          and I would
                                                          expect that to
                                                          be the case
                                                          here. We
                                                          typically
                                                          solicit
                                                          volunteers and
                                                          the ALAC
                                                          Appointee
                                                          Selection
                                                          Committee
                                                          makes
                                                          recommendations
                                                          to the ALAC,
                                                          with the
                                                          expectation is
                                                          that there be
                                                          one candidate
                                                          per region.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          This situation
                                                          is more
                                                          challenging in
                                                          that the ALAC
                                                          and At-Large
                                                          may have a
                                                          variety of
                                                          positions
                                                          ranging from:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          - National or
                                                          local
                                                          governments
                                                          should have
                                                          absolute
                                                          control over
                                                          the use of
                                                          their names
                                                          (or other
                                                          geographic
                                                          identifiers);
                                                          to<br>
                                                          - We have many
                                                          examples of
                                                          the use of
                                                          geographic
                                                          names in
                                                          existing
                                                          domains and
                                                          there is no
                                                          evidence of
                                                          harm, so we
                                                          should allow a
                                                          very liberal
                                                          use of
                                                          geographic
                                                          names in the
                                                          new TLDs.<br>
                                                          - In between,
                                                          there are
                                                          views that
                                                          there should
                                                          be a mechanism
                                                          to arbitrate
                                                          when there are
                                                          different
                                                          parties
                                                          seeking a
                                                          name, or a
                                                          process like
                                                          the Trademark
                                                          Clearinghouse
                                                          where parties
                                                          can register
                                                          their
                                                          "interest" in
                                                          a name.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          It is
                                                          therefore
                                                          really
                                                          important to
                                                          understand the
                                                          variety of
                                                          views and make
                                                          sure that our
                                                          delegation to
                                                          the WT
                                                          represents all
                                                          of these.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          In order to do
                                                          this, I think
                                                          we need a
                                                          discussion of
                                                          what positions
                                                          are held. This
                                                          is NOT an
                                                          opportunity to
                                                          agree or
                                                          disagree with
                                                          positions
                                                          presented, but
                                                          to simply
                                                          understand how
                                                          views vary
                                                          within
                                                          At-Large.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I would like
                                                          to open the
                                                          discussion on
                                                          this list to
                                                          start with,
                                                          and once we
                                                          have a good
                                                          idea of ideas,
                                                          to validate
                                                          them with the
                                                          wider At-Large
                                                          Community.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          With this
                                                          mail, I am
                                                          soliciting
                                                          input on three
                                                          questions:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          1. Do you
                                                          agree with my
                                                          proposal on
                                                          the conditions
                                                          for
                                                          participating
                                                          or if not,
                                                          what do you
                                                          propose
                                                          instead?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          2. Assuming we
                                                          will be asked
                                                          to appoint
                                                          Members,
                                                          should we try
                                                          to balance
                                                          their views to
                                                          make sure the
                                                          majority of
                                                          our community
                                                          has a voice on
                                                          the WT? This
                                                          *might* mean
                                                          we end up
                                                          balancing
                                                          views and not
                                                          have all five
                                                          regions
                                                          represented.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          3. What are
                                                          your views on
                                                          how to address
                                                          the use of
                                                          geographic
                                                          names in Top
                                                          Level Domains?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Alan<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
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