<div dir="auto">Dear all,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As much as I recognise the importance of going through RALO, i think we should remember that this document is an outcome of the task we gave ourselves as ALAC last year (was discussed during the ICANN57 meeting). It's not something that just started today hence its important we put that into perspective.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That said, i believe it will be useless if this ALAC document doesn't receive the blessing of the RALO, hence i suggest that be the next phase and I would recommend that we give this high level document to the RALO leadership to discuss and then provide their responses regarding how they like to implement this. On the long run results should be what ALAC should be most interested in and not on how various RALO implement this.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Certainly, implementation of various parts of the document will require various working groups (let's hope that term remains after the review ;-)) and I expect that this will get to such level.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 Mar 2017 16:57, "Glenn McKnight" <<a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I can't see why they didn't reach out and do a presentation to each of the active WG for the feedback and suggestions<div>G</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_7064900716022276432gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Glenn McKnight<br><a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br>skype gmcknight<br>twitter gmcknight<br>.</div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Satish Babu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sb@inapp.com" target="_blank">sb@inapp.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>While I agree on most parts of the contents of the document, there appears to be a significant process issue here, as pointed out. RALOs as well as the relevant WGs need to be given an opportunity to go through the document and to provide their comments, before it is adopted.<span class="m_7064900716022276432HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br></font></span></div><span class="m_7064900716022276432HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">satish<br><br></font></span></div><div class="m_7064900716022276432HOEnZb"><div class="m_7064900716022276432h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Javier Rua <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:javrua@gmail.com" target="_blank">javrua@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>We cannot set our own traps ourselves like this. We are sometimes the best allies of our worst adversaries.<span><br><br>Javier Rúa-Jovet<div><br></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><a href="tel:(787)%20396-6511" value="+17873966511" target="_blank">+1-787-396-6511</a></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">twitter: @javrua</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">skype: javier.rua1</span></div><div><font style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" color="#000000"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua" style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ja<wbr>vrua</a> </font></div><div><br></div></div></span></div><div><div class="m_7064900716022276432m_2004267626956995784h5"><div><br>On Mar 14, 2017, at 4:39 PM, Glenn McKnight <<a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Olivier <div><br></div><div>No idea why this document wasn't presented to our WG's. We are working in silos</div><div>Since this is dealing with communication, we clearly missed an opportunity </div><div>I guess those led this document are part of the 95% who agree with ITEMS that WG are a waste of time and resources</div><div><br></div><div>G</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_7064900716022276432m_2004267626956995784m_-3390061255505006245gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Glenn McKnight<br><a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br>skype gmcknight<br>twitter gmcknight<br>.</div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Dear Alan,<br>
<br>
I am sorry, but I do not understand why the At-Large working groups
that deal with exactly this type of work are not included and kept
more up to date about this work that was going on.<br>
<br>
- At-Large Social Media Working Group<br>
- ALAC Subcommittee on Outreach and Engagement<br>
<br>
The RALOs were not involved or informed of progress either.<br>
<br>
As a result, I have just lived a 1 hour groundhog day, that is, a
repetition of all of the discussions that have taken place at RALO
and RALO Secretariat and at working group level, with questions
being asked in the document, that are already being addressed, and
some already being responded to; with people making points that have
already been made at RALO and RALO Secretariat and at working group
level. <br>
<br>
On the one hand, we defend the need for the At-Large Community to
have working groups and RALOs. On the other, we completely sideline
them by having an ad-hoc ALS Communication Plan Task Force and a
document that gets sent to the ALAC working list only (and no other
lists).<br>
<br>
We really need to look at what we do objectively and decide whether
we want to practice what we preach or not. Otherwise, we risk being
accused of schizophrenia or, worse still, hypocrisy.<br>
<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier <br><span>
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Tuesday.
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Alan<br>
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