<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Vanda<div><br></div><div>I think you are making an important point here. Outreach extends to a lot of activities that all of the RALOs do in their various ways. And that lets people know about ICANN, about the issues. Participation is only one goal of outreach - and a hard one to achieve - for all the reasons that we have all articulated.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div>Holly<br><div><div>On 4 Mar 2017, at 2:15 am, Vanda Scartezini <<a href="mailto:vanda@scartezini.org">vanda@scartezini.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic';">Do some Outreach and get people Involved are two different animals:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic';">Alberto has asked us to list all events we have talked last two years. If we get all places around in my region I + my colleagues from my ALS ( NEXTi – IT Executive women) - have talked about ICANN and encourage people to participate, I could say we have talked with more than 10,000 persons from ISPs, NGOs, students ( high school and universities), professional association, lawyers events, techy events…<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic';">Even so only less than 20 persons effectively are participating in ICANN from all those contacted. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic';">Some others had applied for NOMCOM but not selected, participated in one or other ICANN groups, attended one or two LACRALO meeting but normally the feedback from those are “too complex to follow / we need more time to learn, etc….<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic';"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic';">But when you talk about some results from ALSs, having them formally involved, we have good results , even if some colleagues ( from my ALs for instance) had gone to other groups in ICANN.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic';">Even in LACRALO we have good examples from ALSs engagement : Aida, is one example of ALS that took some time to learn but now is working quite hard and contributing a lot with the group. Harold is another example… certainly other Ralos can have good examples.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic';">Individual participation is valid but need to be active part of any RALO. 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The fact that they have applied for an ALS status means that their own, national level goals and interests coincide at least to some extent with those of ICANN and that they thus probably defend the interests of ICANN in their national level multistakeholder setting. This important role is something that the review seems to be oblivious of.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">If "representing" 3,5 billion people in the classic sense of representative democracy would be possible, we would have had a world government long ago... But each ALS can try to figure out how end users in its particular environment would be best served and bring forth their points of view, as you say. To get a deeper understanding of the grassroots needs and views of their countries and regions, they might liaise with academia - another reason for enhanced cooperation with the NCUC.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Yrjö<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> </span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> </span></p><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><hr size="2" width="98%" align="center"></span></div><div id="divRplyFwdMsg"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> on behalf of Andrei Kolesnikov <<a href="mailto:andrei@rol.ru" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">andrei@rol.ru</a>><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, March 3, 2017 10:40 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Alan Greenberg<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ALAC<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [ALAC] The Role of the At-Large Community - Discussion with the Board</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Alan - I agree with your proposed dandy's approach to manage the discussion over the flawed topics.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">However nothing stops me and any other ALAC members to express opinion aired by Evan. The whole deal - to framework AtLarge complex and uneasy environment, dealing with diverse domain cultures through ALSs all over the world into the best-western style management is insane.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>"We try to bring forth such a PoV informed by a geographical and linguistic diversity unmatched elsewhere in ICANN except for the GAC." - agree.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">--andrei<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> </span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">2017-03-03 8:52 GMT+03:00 Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" type="cite"><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">The survey question is, in my mind, deeply flawed, but I think it is a dandy way to get into a discussion of what Board members actually expect.<br><br>And yes, other communities are now (finally) being asked the same question, and I think we are in a better position than most to answer it.<br><br>But back to my original message, we can only use this as a start if we have a generally agreed upon analysis of those answers. Thus the question I asked.</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br><br><span class="hoenzb">Alan</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><br><br><br>At 03/03/2017 12:33 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">This whole process is insane.<br><br>Is the Business Constituency ever asked if it represents or speaks for every business -- domain owner or not -- in the world? Is NPOC asked if it represents every NGO? Do the people who attend from law enforcement speak for all police and military?<br><br>Contracted parties -- ie, the domain industry -- generally do have reasonably full representation, in part because there are relatively few players and in part because they are so fully invested in -- and dependent on -- ICANN's pseudo-regulation more than other communities or constituencies.<br><br>But it seems that At-Large alone is singled out for this kind of analysis, because -- unlike the others -- we wouldn't be able to be involved without the charitable resources -- travel and staff support -- that ICANN bequeaths upon us. Such support clearly bothers other communities who believe that we are skimming off revenues THEY bring to ICANN just so we can trash them.<br><br>In my experience, the "who the hell are YOU speaking for?" comment has been used whenever we have something to say that poses a legitimate end-user-driven challenge to ICANN's standard operation. Hearing that in a debate would embolden me because it indicates that our logic and evidence was superior and the only rebuttal was to challenge our legitimacy.<br><br>At the end of the day, we do the job that is asked of us to the extent we are able -- that is, to bring the end-user point of view into ICANN to the best of our individual capabilities. That is all that Bylaw 12.2(d) asks of us and I believe we have generally done that as well as possible given the constraints in place. We try to bring forth such a PoV informed by a geographical and linguistic diversity unmatched elsewhere in ICANN except for the GAC. But even here we are deeply flawed, considering how the regions are sliced and a structure that is so complex so as to churn more volunteer time on process than on policy input.<br><br>Still, there is decent output. I see our policy diversions from NCSG as a (positive) reflection that grassroots population don't always share the same priorities and perspectives of the civil society that is supposedly protecting it. This divergence exists on the street, so seeing it in play within ICANN tells me that At-Large is indeed doing a reasonable -- and surprisingly accurate -- job at conveying the end-user perspective.<br><br>Whether or not we get listened to is a different story.<br><br>- Evan<br><br><br>On 2 March 2017 at 23:54, Alberto Soto <<a href="mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>asoto@ibero-americano.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">I agree with Alan. I would just add that those 10 chosen, and the rest of<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">the non-elected members, through their ALS are the FINAL USER-RALOS-ALAC<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">ICANN interface. And through them feedback is done with the end users. From<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">there it is clear that we interpret and defend the interests of the end<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">users.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Alberto<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">-----Mensaje original-----<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">De:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">[<a href="mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] En nombre de Alan Greenberg<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Enviado el: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:34 AM<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Para: ALAC <<a href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Asunto: [ALAC] The Role of the At-Large Community - Discussion with the<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Board<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">One of the topics suggested (by Rinalia) for discussion with the Board in<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">CPH is the challenges of engaging with end-users.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">I would like to start the discussion by presenting the results of Table 3 in<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">the At-Large Review report describing a survey question on the role of the<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">A-L Community.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">The question read: In your opinion which of the following statements most<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">accurately describes the role played by the At-Large Community within ICANN?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">There were five answers shown here with the % of Board/SO/AC respondents for<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">each option.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">1. The At-Large Community is made up of ALSes and individual RALO members<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">that mainly act in their own interests. (58%)<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">2. The At-Large Community is made up of At-Large Structures (ALSes) and<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">individual RALO members that engage in ICANN policy development processes on<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">behalf of Internet end users worldwide. (13%)<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">3. At-Large is the body within ICANN that allows all Internet end-users to<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">engage in ICANN policy development processes in an equal and<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">non-discriminatory fashion. (6%)<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">4. The At-Large Community is made up of At-Large Structures (ALSes) and<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">individual RALO members that effectively engage with the global community of<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Internet end-users in a bottom-up, consensus- driven fashion. (13%)<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">5. The elected members of the ALAC have a mandate to speak in the interests<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">and on behalf of end users in ICANN policy development processes. (10%)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">My analysis:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">1. is largely correct. ALSes are independent entities that generally exist<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">outside of the ICANN context. They of course act in their own interests<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">(which may well coincide with the interests of other including the interests<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">of 3.5 billion users. However, by consolidating these regionally diverse<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">inputs, the RALOs and the ALAC can reasonably claim to represent the needs<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">and interests of users world-wide.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">2. is also correct. We certainly do need to get MORE people involved, but if<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">the component parts listed in 2 are not us, who are we?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">3. is impossible. How can ANYTHING claim to engage all 3.5 billion users, or<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">even provide the mechanisms to allow such participation? Do 6% of<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">respondents really think we do??<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">4. is either impossible if it implies that ALSes and individual members<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">engage with the ENTIRE global community, or is a reasonable target if we<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">mean that each part engages in some subset of their local community, or is<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">based on experience with such a community.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">5. is false. No one of the 10 RALO-selected (presumably that is what they<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">meant by "elected") Member has a mandate to speak on behalf of all users or<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">the users of their region. But together, along with the NomCom-appointed<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Members have a mandate to formulate statements which they believe will serve<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">the global user community well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">What do people think of this analysis?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Alan<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; 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