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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Hi, Suen,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>I would again say it is indeed ALT vs.
randomness.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Regarding ALT member having already voted, yes, they
have already voted. What I propose is to let them vote again on behalf of
the the electorates. In any republic, congressmen/women all have voted
locally or during initial rounds. However, this does not mean that their
voting again in congress makes it unfair.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Regarding fairness vs. effectiveness, I would go
for effectiveness. Indeed, who ever lost may have a reason to suspect that
the winning person has closer ties to ALT members. However, this is a
question regarding the integrety of ALT members. As far as I see, this is
not an issue with our current ALT, and I believe, when future ALT members are
elected, personal integrety will certainly be taken into account by all the
people electing them. Also, as time passes, I have every reason to
believe that ALT members who selected the winning person would have plenty
opportunities to demonstrate their integrety, also to clear out any such
suspicion.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Futhermore, another reason that I would go for
effectiveness is that we at ALAC are on a mission to represent the world's
billions of end-users. We are not just individuals on ourselves when
personal rights may take a priority. Thus, although there might be
cases when some individuals feel it is "unfair" to them, as our top
priority is always to do the job best, just like in the
military, fairness is only secondary compared to the expectation laid on us
by those billions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Regarding "tossing the coin" by ALT, no, that does not
imply randomization. The precondition for "tossing a coin" is believing
ALT's selection is worse than random selection. I am not sure about what
you believe in, but I certainly have much better faith in ALT.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Also, regarding the current discussion about
randomness vs. ALT selection, I also believe there is only an extremely small
chance for that case to occur this time. However, as we are setting the
rules now, it is not going to be for this time only. It may last for a
long time, for many people including myself are tired of this "long and painful
process". This is exactly why I insist on setting the rules right.
If we cannot set the rules right, let's go for alternatives and leave the
procedures to later. However, we definitely do not want to set the wrong
rules in a hurry and suffer long-term consequences in the future.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Glad to see two of the most junior members debating on
long-term and important issues of ALAC like this, which shows that our
ALAC is indeed a democracy. :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Kaili</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=seun.ojedeji@gmail.com href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">Seun
Ojedeji</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>To:</B> <A title=kankaili@gmail.com
href="mailto:kankaili@gmail.com">Kaili Kan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org
href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org">ALAC Working List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 17, 2016 8:02 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ALAC] Explanation of RoP
Director voting alternatives</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P dir=ltr>Hello Kaili,</P>
<P dir=ltr>It is not about the ALT vs randomisation. The act of randomisation
at that point is in fairness to the contestants. We the electorate know that
either of them is fine, giving it over to the ALT to choose (don't forget that
ALT is part of those who already voted) gives whoever lost some reason to feel
the winner has personal attachment to the ALT.</P>
<P dir=ltr>Now I will still be fine if we indeed leave it to the ALT to "toss
the coin" as that would still imply randomisation. What we should not be doing
at that point is having the ALT vote on whom among the contestant is
preferred.</P>
<P dir=ltr>Regards</P>
<P dir=ltr>Sent from my LG G4<BR>Kindly excuse brevity and typos</P>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 17 Jun 2016 12:35 p.m., "Kan Kaili" <<A
href="mailto:kankaili@gmail.com">kankaili@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Hi, Suen,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>The issue is about comparing ALT's selection
capability vs. ranmdomness. Are you saying that ALT's selection would
be even worse than randomness?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>If that is the case, let's close our eyes and let
ALT to toss the coin. If that is not the case, let's again close our
eyes and let ALT make the decision as well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Kaili</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
title=seun.ojedeji@gmail.com href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com"
target=_blank>Seun Ojedeji</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>To:</B> <A title=h.raiche@internode.on.net
href="mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net" target=_blank>Holly Raiche</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=kankaili@gmail.com
href="mailto:kankaili@gmail.com" target=_blank>Kaili Kan</A> ; <A
title=alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"
target=_blank>Alan Greenberg</A> ; <A title=alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org
href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target=_blank>ALAC Working
List</A> ; <A title=leonfelipe@sanchez.mx
href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target=_blank>León Felipe Sánchez
Ambía</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 17, 2016 7:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ALAC] Explanation of RoP
Director voting alternatives</DIV>
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<DIV>Hello Holly,<BR><BR></DIV>This is not about my level of trust for the
ALT, all the electorates are one way or the other put in their positions
by their regions and they are equally trustworthy so i would have still
said the same thing if we delegated the role to ALAC or any other
leadership. <BR><BR>My point is that when/if we get to that bridge
where 2 or more already tied contestants returns tied again, it implies
both of them are qualified to be elected and it should not require any
other individual(s) to deliberate on which one of them to choose. The
element of luck should just play its magic at that point; we should all
just close our eyes and select one of them which is the act of selection
by randomization.<BR><BR></DIV>Regards<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Holly Raiche
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net"
target=_blank>h.raiche@internode.on.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word">Hi Seun
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I really worry about your statement that randomness is preferable
to the ALT’s role - an unnecessary human perspective.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>ALT members are there because their regions have put them
there. But when it comes to the crunch, they are not to be
trusted! Really!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I agree, that we are now talking about a very unlikely scenario
which, hopefully, will not happen. That said, I’d really prefer to
think that human consideration is preferable. (and the normal
practice in all Boards is that when a Board member is too closely tied
to a particular outcome, they excuse themselves from participating in
making the relevant decision(s).</DIV><SPAN><FONT color=#888888>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Holly</DIV></FONT></SPAN>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On 17 Jun 2016, at 6:06 pm, Seun Ojedeji <<A
href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com"
target=_blank>seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</A>> wrote:</DIV><BR>
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<P dir=ltr>Hello Kaili,</P>
<P dir=ltr>I think we need to be clear here, going the random option
is last resort and we all may actually never experience it. Three
steps would have happened before randomly doing stuff:</P>
<P dir=ltr>1. There would have been a contested position<BR>2. Votes
would have been casted and resulted to a tie<BR>3. Another set of
votes would have been casted among the contestants in 2 above.</P>
<P dir=ltr>Once the above still result to a tie, I think it is just
fair to go to randomisation that is verifiable. At that point there
would be no human subjectivity as it is assumed that both tied
contestants are qualified to be elected. Seeding that role to ALT
brings in unnecessary human perspective/interference which won't be
necessary at that point. </P>
<P dir=ltr>Secondly, the ALT members are part of the electorates and
there may even be instances where one of them is a contestant so
delegating a section of the electorate the responsibility to determine
the elected would not be a fair election process.</P>
<P dir=ltr>Regards<BR>Sent from my LG G4<BR>Kindly excuse brevity
and typos</P>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 17 Jun 2016 8:50 a.m., "Kan Kaili" <<A
href="mailto:kankaili@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kankaili@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR type="attribution">
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Hi, Leon,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>I agree with you that a random selection
process is the best in accordance to "fairness".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>However, including this random factor into
the selection process implies that we at ALAC rather trust
randomness instead of our own elected ALT. This also
implies that we regard personal fairness to be more important than
the effectiveness of selecting our Board Member. Are those
what we really want?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>As I understand, the Board Member is
to represent ALAC, all the RALOs and ALSs, and in turn all the
end-users to the Board. This is a serious position with
enormous responsibility. I am not sure about
what the end-users will think, but at least I will not feel
comfortable having a randomly selected person to represent me.
Furthermore, I am not sure if such a selectee would feel confident
and be effective at that position either.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Sorry to disagree with you on some
points.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体>Kaili</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=宋体></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
title=leonfelipe@sanchez.mx href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx"
target=_blank>León Felipe Sánchez Ambía</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>To:</B> <A
title=h.raiche@internode.on.net
href="mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net" target=_blank>Holly
Raiche</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org
href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target=_blank>ALAC
Working List</A> ; <A title=alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target=_blank>Alan
Greenberg</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 17, 2016 12:03
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ALAC] Explanation
of RoP Director voting alternatives</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hello all,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>My sense is that option 2 is the best in fairness. While I
understand the complexities of the rest of the options, I believe
letting those candidates tied for last place compete amongst them
is the most transparent way to address the challenge. In case they
are tied again, then it would be justified to run the verifiable
random disqualification process.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>Best regards,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>León</DIV></DIV><BR>
<DIV>
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<DIV>El 16/06/2016, a las 5:18 p.m., Holly Raiche <<A
href="mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net"
target=_blank>h.raiche@internode.on.net</A>>
escribió:</DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word">I have to agree with Alan
(and Kaili) here.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I don’t think Kaili was suggesting that the ALT take over
anything. However, they may be situations where, for
timing reasons, the ALT may be an appropriate mechanism to reach
a decision.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>In the longer term, yes, we do need rules to deal with
situations that have been described, and they must be as open
and democratic and fair as possible. But we must also
reserve the means of solving disputes in ways that do not absorb
too much time and energy of ALAC members. I”m sure there
will be a solution, hopefully without absorbing too much more
time and effort of all of us</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Holly</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On 17 Jun 2016, at 1:48 am, Alan Greenberg <<A
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"
target=_blank>alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</A>> wrote:</DIV><BR>
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<DIV>To be clear, Tijani is correct that the ALT does not, de
facto, have any rights to take decisions on behalf of the ALAC
other than those rights of the Chair which the Chair might
actively delegate to the ALT.<BR><BR>However, the ALAC may, if
it chooses, from time to time, delegate actions of the ALAC to
the ALT. It happens relatively rarely, but does on occasion
occur, usually for reasons of tight timing
requirements.<BR><BR>Alan<BR><BR>At 16/06/2016 11:33 AM,
Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><FONT color=#002e7a>Dear
Kaili,</FONT><BR><FONT color=#002e7a><BR>I’m sorry to
disagree with you on everything: </FONT>
<UL><FONT color=#002e7a>
<LI>The electorate is not constituted by the ALAC members
only, but also the RALO leaders, so the ALAC can’t
delegate to ALT what is not its sole duty </FONT>
<LI><FONT color=#002e7a>even if we suppose that the ALT is
elected democratically by the ALAC members, this doesn’t
mean that the ALT can be delegated to replace the ALAC.
This is exactly the argument given by the authoritarian
regimes arguing that since they were elected by their
people, they have all the rights to do everything on their
behalf because they know better then the people where is
their interest. When you are democratically elected, it is
a mandate for a limited time to do certain things; it is
not an open mandate to replace who elected you outside the
mandate you are elected for.
</FONT></LI></UL><BR>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><B>Tijani
BEN JEMAA<BR></B>Executive Director<BR>Mediterranean
Federation of Internet Associations (<B>FMAI</B>)<BR>Phone:
<A href="tel:%2B216%2098%20330%20114" target=_blank
value="+21698330114">+216 98 330 114</A><BR>
+216 52 385
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Le 16 juin 2016 Ã 15:46, Kan
Kaili <<A href="mailto:kankaili@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kankaili@gmail.com</A>> a écrit
:<BR><BR><FONT size=2>Hi,
Tijani,<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>The awswer to
your question: Basically, yes. That is, when ALAC
faces a tie during the selection of its Board Director, or
other positions generally in principle, the ALT will be
delegated to make the selection on behalf of
ALAC.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>The justification
of this includes:<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>- When
there is a tie, all the tied candidates are equal
representations of ALAC.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>- The ALT is democratically elected with full
representation of all regions, cultures and, presumably,
various interests.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>- ALT
members are elected due to their experience and
contribution to ICANN's mission, who should also be most
capable to make the best selection among
candidates.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>- As the ALT
will be making the selection on behalf of all of ALAC, the
process should be open to all ALAC voting members (not
beyond). Thus, the selection made by each ALT member
in this process will affect the support he/she receives
during later elections of the ALT. This will in turn
put a "lid" on any possible blackbox deals which will be
the safeguard for our democratic
principle.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>- We at ALAC
are merely representatives of ALSes, or of the end-users
in the world (maybe to a lesser extent regarding NomCom
selectees like me). Thus, as they elected and
delegated us to make selections on their behalf, it would
also make sense to extend the same principle to the ALT in
the case we cannot effectively make a
selection.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Furthermore,
as Alan pointed out, it is possible, even likely, that
tied-candidates be ALT members themselves, and even the
chairperson him/herself. So be it. I don't
think anywhere in the world's elections prohibit a person
to vote for him/herself. Based on the above same
arguments, he/she has received enough support for the
position during the "general" election process, and is
thus well deserved. Thus, he/she moving to the Board
will vacate the ALT position, maybe even the chairperson
position, for new blood. Also, as he/she gets the
position as desired, I am sure that he/she will work even
harder to contribute to ICANN's
mission.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Of course,
before ALT selects on behalf of the whole ALAC, how many
rounds of tie-breaking need to take place is up to
debate. As I am not familiar to the current process,
I am sure that, with so much wisdom in ALAC, a process to
bridge the gap between the current process and the future
one could be designed. However, again as Arrow's
Nobel-prized Theorem has proven, especially as the Board
Member selection process has been a "long and painful" one
so far, a certain degree of "dictatorship"
("democracy-based dictatorship" to be exact) has to be
there as a last resort.<BR> <BR>Thank you, and thank
you all.<BR> <BR>Best
regards,<BR>Kaili<BR> <BR> <BR></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">----- Original Message -----
<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn"
target=_blank>Tijani BEN JEMAA</A><BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:kankaili@gmail.com" target=_blank>Kan
Kaili</A><BR><B>Cc:</B> <A
href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target=_blank>Seun
Ojedeji</A> ; <A href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"
target=_blank>Alan Greenberg</A> ; <A
href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
target=_blank>ALAC Working List</A><BR><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, June 16, 2016 8:58 PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[ALAC] Explanation of RoP Director voting
alternatives<BR><BR><FONT color=#002e7a>Dear
Kaili,</FONT><BR><FONT color=#002e7a><BR>Do you propose
that in the selection of the Board Director selected by
At-Large, when we face a tie, we delegate the ALT to
decide which one should be
dropped????<BR></FONT><BR><BR>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><B>Tijani
BEN JEMAA<BR></B>Executive Director<BR>Mediterranean
Federation of Internet Associations
(<B>FMAI</B>)<BR>Phone: <A
href="tel:%2B216%2098%20330%20114" target=_blank
value="+21698330114">+216 98 330 114</A><BR>
+216 52 385
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Le 16 juin 2016 Ã 12:00,
Kan Kaili <<A href="mailto:kankaili@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kankaili@gmail.com</A>> a écrit
:<BR><BR><FONT size=2>Hi,<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>I have followed this discussion with interest
but also confussion. It seems to me that
different options have different pros, cons and
possible outcomes.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>As
a matter of fact, this reminds me of Arrow's
Impossibility Theorem, basically saying that democracy
can only go so far, and may not necessarily lead to a
fair outcome acceptable by everybody. In that
case, some degree of "dictatorship" is
warranted. This is why republics are
established, as well as why the presidential race
between Bush and Gore was finally decided by the
Supreme Court.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Thus,
in our case, when a tie has appeared, I suggest to
delegate ALT to decide who will represent ALAC at the
position. After all, the ALT is elected by all
of us thru a fully democratic process. Good
enough. In the case that even the ALT cannot
decide, the chairperson of ALAC will make the final
decision.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>I believe
this process is highly executable, and is also fully
democratic to its limit.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>Being the most junior member of ALAC, just
expressing some of my thoughts for your
consideration.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>_______________________________________________<BR>ALAC
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