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<p>Greetings all:</p>
<p>I do not have religion on this question. I think option two is
more easily understood. At least, I understand its inner logic.</p>
<p>Considerations of strategic voting in this instance, where voters
for #1 vote for #3 so as to displace candidate #2 envisage a rare
occurrence . The case where candidates #2 and #3 are tied will
occur more often than a dime landing on its edge, I grant you, but
I do not see that occurring often enough to be a concern.</p>
<p>I remain open to more compelling argument, but for the time being
I find option #2 to be the best available.</p>
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<p>Tim Denton<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/15/2016 12:22 PM, Seun Ojedeji
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<p dir="ltr">I would agree with Tijani's option as well, for
similar reason; I think it's just fair not to bring the leading
contestant in the tie breaking process between 2 other
contestants.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from my LG G4<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 15 Jun 2016 16:59, "Tijani BEN JEMAA"
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<div><font color="#002e7a">My inclination is to option 2. I
find it more logical and preserve the right of the
candidate with the best score. I think that the first
vote is done without side consideration, means that each
electorate member will vote for their preferred
candidate, and its result is the more relevant with the
electorate choice. So, it’s fair to respect it and keep
the candidate with the best score and rerun the vote to
break the tie between the tied candidates.<br>
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<div>Le 10 juin 2016 à 22:22, Alan Greenberg <<a
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<div><span
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the Rules of Procedure revision that I sent a few
days ago, there are several options to one of the
voting stages in the selection of the At-Large
Director. The RoP revision group did not reach
unanimity on which option to pick (largely because
of the deadline required to sent the revision to
the ALAC to allow us to approve the revisions in
Helsinki).</span><br
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<br
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<span
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options have to do with the reduction of three
candidates to two. In the optimal case, one of the
three candidates will have fewer votes (or first
preference votes) and will be dropped, resulting
in two candidates being left. The difficulty
arises if the two candidates tie for last place,
but with the leading candidate not receiving an
absolute majority of votes needed to be declared
the final winner.</span><br
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<br
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<span
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1: Re-run the entire three-way election, with the
hope that some positions may have changed. This
would be done just once. If the second vote
results in a tie for the last position (even if it
is not the same pair as the first time), one of
those tied is eliminated based on a verifiable
random selection. The down side of this method is
that no one may alter their vote and we would have
to use a random selection.</span><br
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<br
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<span
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2: Have a run-off vote between the two tied
candidates. If the results between the two is
tied, a verifiable random selection would be used
to eliminate one of them. The down side of this
option is something called "strategic voting".
Those electors who originally voted for the
leading candidate (the one not in this runoff) may
not vote for the person they prefer, but could
vote for the one they perceive as the weakest
opponent to their preferred candidate.</span><br
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<br
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<span
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3: There will be no 2nd vote. One of the two tied
candidates will be dropped based on a verifiable
random selection.</span><br
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<br
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<span
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4: Use the same STV voting as would be used in the
first round (to narrow the slate down to three).
The BigPulse STV system will always eliminate one
candidate, but if it must resort to a random
selection, it would be internal to the voting
system and would not be verifiable (ie it would
have to be trusted to have used a truly random
selection.</span><br
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<br
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<span
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the ALAC will have to decide on a which option to
use, it would be good to begin the discussion now
and not wait for Helsinki.</span></div>
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