<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Dear Raf, I think Leon is a good example that also a newcomer can escalate quite fast and that positions are not only rotated among usual suspects. I would also wish we had more people in the pipeline taking over responsibility. <br><br>Best Sandra<div><br><div>(Note: This message was sent from my iPhone - I do apologise for any misspelling.)</div></div></div><div><br>Am 17.10.2015 um 18:56 schrieb Rafid Fatani <<a href="mailto:rafid.fatani@accesspartnership.com">rafid.fatani@accesspartnership.com</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">Given the amount of discussions I’ve had today regarding my last email, I thought I should clarify some misconceptions.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">I need to start by applauding the large group of hard working volunteers that make up the ALAC. My previous email is not aimed at anyone or any group in particular, only
aimed at what I see as a flawed process. I understand why we are where we are, but I do not accept the argument put forward supporting the status quo. ICANN is increasingly under the microscope, and if the ALAC within ICANN is to be taken seriously moving
forward, we need to address this matter. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">There is an worrying kind of relationship in the ALAC built over time. Call it what you wish, but the ALAC community represents over 3 billion people, and this is larger
than the select few that have rotated along various positions over the last few years. Jumping from one role and committee to another, in coordination with others to save them a seat when the time is ripe - So let’s all stop pretending this doesn’t happen.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">The argument that I, and I expect many of you have heard, is that of the built-in biases to this 'small band of knowledgeable people' argument is vested in the idea that
the ALAC must respond to everything that comes along, thus the need to maintain the group of ‘expertise’ becomes imperative. Year after year, I’ve heard the ALAC leadership talk about out-reach and increasing the pool of volunteers, however while this of course
is essential, this exercise would only be beneficial if the ‘old talent’ are willing to give up seats – something I think we can all agree on we have seen very little of over the years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">Many have been vocal about the ALAC being more strategic in choosing our battles, not only in recognition and valuation of volunteer's time, but also to develop more
wide-based teams. The reality is, many cling on to these positions for various self-interests, with the argument that ‘no one else understand the complex ICANN system and issues like I do’… Let me just say, I come from a region where I’ve heard this argument
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">I apologies if my words have hurt anyone, this is not my intention. In fact my issue is ONLY with the process, and this is not about individuals serving or will be serving
in the ALT. Let me also stress again, because I’ve heard talk suggesting I am raising this issue because I was not nominated for an ALT positions -
<b>I do not wish to take a seat on the table this year</b>, <b>nor do my commitments allow me</b> -thus my interest is only in highlighting what I believe is a flaw in the process.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">I feel ALT nominations tend to be discussed behind closed doors by a few, and then rushed for votes supported swiftly by those gaining in the process (with the time factor
be used an argument).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">Moving forward I suggest that in all future ALT nomination processes, the ALT should inform the ALAC in advance that the nomination process is to take place (giving at
least one week notice). A call of interest should be emailed in advance to the ALAC, and subsequently a nomination process take place. This would add an extra week to the process, but it allows discussion and thought to take place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">While I have no issue with the people being nominated for the ALT this round, may I suggest that the current nomination be paused, so that due process can shape in a
transparent and accountable fashion. Admittedly, this will add an extra day or two to the process, but it would start with dealing with the democratic deficit that is clearly taking shape between us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">Rafid Fatani<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Sébastien Bachollet [<a href="mailto:sebastien@bachollet.com">mailto:sebastien@bachollet.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 13 October 2015 22:22<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org">alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ICANN At-Large Staff <<a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>>; Rafid Fatani <<a href="mailto:rafid.fatani@accesspartnership.com">rafid.fatani@accesspartnership.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ALAC] CALL FOR NOMINATIONS: 2016 ALAC Leadership Team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">I would like to support Raf comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">And thank to Christopher for the good questions and comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">I hope that we will have time to discuss this issue during the Dublin meeting as it is very related with the work of the ccwg-accountability regarding the accountability of SO and AC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">See you in Dublin.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Blog: <a href="http://sebastien.bachollet.fr">http://sebastien.bachollet.fr</a>/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Mail: </span><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">Sébastien Bachollet <<a href="mailto:sebastien@bachollet.com">sebastien@bachollet.com</a>></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">De : </span></b><span style="color:black"><<a href="mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> on behalf of Rafid Fatani <<a href="mailto:rafid.fatani@accesspartnership.com">rafid.fatani@accesspartnership.com</a>><br>
<b>Date : </b>lundi 12 octobre 2015 13:11<br>
<b>À : </b>ICANN At-Large Staff <<a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc : </b>"<a href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org">alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org">alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>, "Alan Greenberg (<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>)"
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<b>Objet : </b>Re: [ALAC] CALL FOR NOMINATIONS: 2016 ALAC Leadership Team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">I want to publicly note that I do not wish to participate in this nomination process. I feel this is part of a play orchestrated by a select few, with the sole purpose of rotating the same people
in various positions. This is not only in reference to the ALT leadership positions, but all ALAC related positions. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Let my intentions be VERY clear- I have, and had no intention to run for any of these positions this year. My position on this matter stems from the discontent on how a select few manage the process. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 10 Oct 2015, at 16:05, ICANN At-Large Staff <<a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Dear All,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Please see below the call for nominations for members of the 2016 ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) sent on behalf of Alan Greenberg, Chair of the ALAC.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">===========================================</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">ALAC LEADERSHIP TEAM</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Now that it is confirmed that the ALAC Chair, Alan Greenberg, will continue for another term, he has requested that a call for nominations be issued for the other four members of the ALAC Leadership
team (ALT) from the four remaining regions:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">- Africa</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">- Asia, Australasia and Pacific Islands</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">- Europe</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">- Latin America and Caribbean Islands</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">The ALAC Rules of Procedure call for up to two Vice-Chairs, at the discretion of the incoming ALAC Chair, and Alan has indicated that he would prefer two Vice-Chairs as was the case during the
past year.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Nominations are now open for individuals to serve as the two Vice-Chairs of the ALAC and the two non-titled ALT positions. Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need
not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations, but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming Dublin ICANN Meeting.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Requirements for ALT members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC Rules of Procedure (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04">http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04</a>).</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Nominations will close on Saturday, 17 October 2015 at 23:59 UTC.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Nominations need not be seconded, but it is an ALAC tradition that others may second the nomination as a show of agreement with the nomination.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Nominations other than self-nominations must be accepted within seven days after the close of nominations. Acceptance should be sent to the
<a href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org%3cmailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org">
alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Nominees without access to that list should send their acceptance to
<a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org%3cmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org">staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>>.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Staff will forward all acceptances to
<a href="mailto:ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.rog%3cmailto:ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.rog">
ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.rog<mailto:ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.rog</a>>.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Following the close of the nominations period and the acceptance or rejection of all nominations, candidates from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by
acclamation.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the situation. Failing that, an secret vote of the ALAC
will decide the winner.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">If the resultant ALT includes two members nominated to be Vice-Chairs, those two will serve in those positions. If there are less than two or more than two nominated as Vice-Chairs, the ALAC
Chair will decide who will occupy the Vice-Chair positions.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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