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Thank you Alan. Just to confirm, I am in agreement with the latest
version that has been posted to the WIKI. The Statement itself is
not just a set of positions which Alan has had, I believe, also
incorporates the line of work which has been defended by the ALAC
since the start of the CCWG and, in some cases, the CWG process.
Discussions have been possible at each conference call and I
certainly did not see opposition to the points which Alan has
developed - except with regards to details, on the WIKI.<br>
I would argue that Alan has taken all expressed opinions into
account and that we are really now concerned with small details, the
majority of which are very unlikely to happen in any case.<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/06/2015 02:59, Alan Greenberg
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:bdeab48e-158c-42f6-b70d-486149346d0e@EXHUB2010-3.campus.MCGILL.CA"
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With the help of Olivier, I have revised the document and I hope
addressed your concerns. It has been posted to the public comment
and I
will shortly post both the final version and a redline version to
the
wiki.<br>
<br>
Alan<br>
<br>
At 03/06/2015 06:32 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Alan,<br>
<br>
My points are very clear, and the minimum that should be done is
to
reflect both points of view, not saying “the majority believe…”.
There
are 2 positions, so let’s put them together (some think ….
Others
believe….).<br>
<br>
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<b>Tijani BEN JEMAA<br>
</b>Executive Director<br>
Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (<b>FMAI</b>)<br>
Phone: + 216 41 649 605<br>
Mobile: + 216 98 330 114<br>
Fax: + 216 70 853 376<br>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
<b>De :</b> Alan Greenberg
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" eudora="autourl">
mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>] <br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 3 juin 2015 22:12<br>
<b>À :</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn">tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn</a>; 'ALAC'; 'IANA Issues'<br>
<b>Objet :</b> RE: [IANA-issues] CCWG-Accountability REVISED
Draft
Comment Posted.<br>
<b>Importance :</b> Haute<br>
<br>
Tijani, I am trying my best to reflect a fair statement. My
preference
would be to make a strong statement that reflects the majority
views, but
people have felt strongly that all variants need to be presented
and I
have done what I could to have the statement represent all of
those
views.<br>
<br>
Please suggest wording that will satisfy you, but it cannot be
to simply
remove the parts you do not agree with. That removes what others
feel is
appropriate.<br>
<br>
We only have 3 hours before the comment period closes.<br>
<br>
Alan<br>
<br>
At 03/06/2015 03:50 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:<br>
<br>
Thank you Alan,<br>
<br>
As you said the discussion was more between you, Seun and
myself, and you
recognized that no feedback from the rest of our members. You
also
recognized that Seun mostly had similar position than me. In
short, we
had 2 similar opinions and another different opinion.<br>
<br>
But unfortunately, you didn’t consider any of my remarks in your
last
version in which you say:” The ALAC believe…, the ALAC
consider….etc.” I
think that parts of the statement don’t represent the opinion of
ALAC.
For the CWG statement, you tried to find the middle ground, in
this one,
you expressed your point of view. I’m sorry for that.<br>
<br>
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<b>Tijani BEN JEMAA<br>
</b>Executive Director<br>
Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (<b>FMAI</b>)<br>
Phone: + 216 41 649 605<br>
Mobile: + 216 98 330 114<br>
Fax: + 216 70 853 376<br>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<b>De :</b> Alan Greenberg
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" eudora="autourl">
</a><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" eudora="autourl">
mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>] <br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 3 juin 2015 15:55<br>
<b>À :</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn">tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn</a>; 'ALAC'; 'IANA Issues'<br>
<b>Objet :</b> RE: [IANA-issues] CCWG-Accountability REVISED
Draft
Comment Posted.<br>
<br>
There were two problems. That document should not have been
attached. I
pointed to the wiki in the e-mail. The document was from an
earlier
e-mail that I neglected to remove. And the 21 May date was in
error, even
the first time (although no one noticed).<br>
<br>
Alan<br>
<br>
At 03/06/2015 04:24 AM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:<br>
<br>
Alan,<br>
<br>
Are you sure the attached version is the last one; it was marked
“21
May”.<br>
<br>
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<b>Tijani BEN JEMAA<br>
</b>Executive Director<br>
Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (<b>FMAI</b>)<br>
Phone: + 216 41 649 605<br>
Mobile: + 216 98 330 114<br>
Fax: + 216 70 853 376<br>
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-----Message d'origine-----<br>
De : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:iana-issues-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">iana-issues-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> [
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:iana-issues-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">
mailto:iana-issues-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] De la
part de
Alan Greenberg<br>
Envoyé : mercredi 3 juin 2015 06:40<br>
À : ALAC; IANA Issues<br>
Objet : [IANA-issues] CCWG-Accountability REVISED Draft Comment
Posted.<br>
Importance : Haute<br>
<br>
A revised version of the Comment has been posted incorporating
the issues
raised in the last day. See
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/x/koU0Aw">
https://community.icann.org/x/koU0Aw</a>.<br>
<br>
At this point, we are having very few comments made, and those
that are
largely a debate between Tijani and me (with comments from Seun
largely
supporting Tijani).<br>
<br>
We REALLY need more people to contribute. A statement like this
needs to
reflect the overall community and not just the views of a few
people.<br>
<br>
Alan<br>
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