[ALAC] At-Large Travel Fresh Start

Fri Apr 19 10:51:48 UTC 2024

Hello dear all!
Thank you for this discussion, food for mind, and understanding which path
(with what different introductory obstacles or vice versa - help,
stipendien  and encouragement) the newcomers of the community go through.
This is a huge complex of analysis and work. In neighboring ICANN
constituencies we see how it is implemented (or don`t know and want to know
more).

To all of the above, I can add:
1. In any organization, performance assessment should be two-sided:
to evaluate not only people and their contributions, but also to evaluate
the effectiveness of the organization's business processes, and the range
of opportunities and conditions provided by the community for volunteers.

2. When in our community of volunteers, represented in such a diverse way
(not only by members, but also by living conditions, the economy and the
current situation in different countries, not equal access to work
opportunities in the community, the unavailability (yet) of multilingual
support for all working processes, different opportunities for involvement
in the three pillars of At-Large activities), the idea to implement
metrics, the evaluation of indicators with minimal probability will lead us
to the possibility of linearly and equally evaluating the contribution of
members communities in its development.

We can still see that not all regions (not all RALOs, leaders) express
concerns about this precedent, which is also a reflection of how we, the
community, understand and present diversity. And it's not just about gender
only, unfortunately.

Sincerely,
Natalia Filina

Secretary of EURALO
https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo

ALAC Subcommittee on Outreach and Engagement, Co-Chair,
REGIONAL OUTREACH LIAISON MENTOR AND TRAINER

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чт, 18 апр. 2024 г. в 21:02, Glenn McKnight via ALAC <
alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>:

> Hi All
> Thank you Fatimata to adding a concrete example on how women are
> discriminated due to their massive amount of extra work/family obligations.
> I like to also bring up another group that is invisible which is 15% of
> our population, its the Persons with Disabilities.   I believe strongly
> that we should be proving the ways and means for these individuals have an
> opportunity to be involved.   An interesting event yesterday held by CIRA
> on multistakeholderism  failed to include  Closed Captioning where they
> prided themselves on being inclusive.   We need to rethink how inclusive we
> actually are.
>
> Glenn McKnight, MA
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>
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 at 13:12, Fatimata Seye Sylla <fsylla at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Echoing Vanda and Glen about the Atlarge volunteer model and women
>> involvement. Mainly in developing countries and specially in Africa, it is
>> difficult for a professional woman to find extra time to dedicate to ICANN
>> with the necessary focus, no matter how interested she can be.  Full time
>> job at work and at home and volunteer !!!
>>
>> Let’s think about how to improve the ICANN volunteer model to be more
>> inclusive.
>>
>> Fatimata
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2024, at 11:58 AM, Glenn McKnight via ALAC <
>> alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Vanda
>> I recall at the DNS Women meeting in KL  that the  you mentioned that few
>> Young Women desired to become involved in DNS Women and ICANN as a whole.
>> If you recall I did some research on the fellowship programme  using the
>> database created by Dev and myself and we found the majority of fellows are
>> male.  This is a serious problem given the fact an important entry point
>> for ICANN new recruits  can come from this program.  After speaking to
>> Egrys on this issue the issue was addressed in having gender parity.  Alas,
>> I don't think this has been achieved.  The absence of real  marketing
>> outreach to  Women in Engineering,  IEEE  etc  to recruit women to apply we
>> will end up with same problem.  Again we will complain of the lack of
>> participation and we fail to address the lack of proper marketing
>> strategy.   Recently I was on the ARIN fellowship selection committee and
>> the quality of the candidates was superb and very few ' free trippers"
>> perhaps we can learn from other organizations how to recruit
>>
>> g
>> Glenn McKnight, MA
>> Virtual School of Internet Governance
>> Chief Information Officer
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 at 10:07, Vanda Scartezini via ALAC <
>> alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all
>>>
>>> Thanks for these debates. I am quite interested in how to attract new
>>> members to At Large (ALAC) and especially young future leaders.
>>>
>>> I believe, we, long-term members without business interests are
>>> continuing to attend ICANN because we like it, and we see we can add some,
>>> in our views, relevant value, no matter if technical, managerial, or
>>> social.
>>>
>>> However, looking back, more and more we are now just a few of those
>>> financially disinterested people, compared with the large ICANN group with
>>> a financial interest in being part of ICANN - this financial interest can
>>> be any resource that pays your bills. Can be organizations with direct
>>> ICANN interest or can be government, for instance.
>>>
>>> This is even more relevant for young new member starting or in the
>>> middle of their professional life.
>>>
>>> Hence, we, with no financial interest I believe, are a group in
>>> extinction.
>>>
>>> To have new members to actively participating in the At Large
>>> organization maybe it is time to  start focusing on those areas  where new
>>> members are employees of government or companies with financial interest
>>> but also nterested also in the social side, or even a R&D organizations in
>>> order to allow new members to At Large to see advantages to their
>>> engagement.  At Large is the only group that still have some real
>>> volunteers. All other groups members have some financial interest allowing
>>> them to dedicate their time to work for ICANN.
>>>
>>> ICANN needs to rethink its volunteer model.
>>>
>>> New members that came with energy only will continue if they get any
>>> other financial support to dedicate time to At Large work.
>>>
>>> I, member of those in extinction full volunteer, will continue to follow
>>> ICANN while I feel I can be useful, and I still recognize some personal
>>> value in my participation.
>>>
>>> I do not expect NexGen to buy our model, and even only fewer fellows
>>> will do it without the support of its business interests.
>>>
>>> I have no criticism of anyone with business interests, but we need to
>>> think about how the At Large equation will really survive in the next 5 or
>>> more years.
>>>
>>> My two cents
>>>
>>> Kisses to all
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Vanda Scartezini *
>>>
>>> *DNS WOMEN *
>>>
>>> *Sao Paulo, Brazil*
>>>
>>> *+ 55 11 98181-1464*
>>>
>>> *Vanda at Scartezini.org <Vanda at Scartezini.org>*
>>>
>>> *www.dnswomen.org <http://www.dnswomen.org>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *ALAC <alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Joanna
>>> Kulesza via ALAC <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>> *Date: *Thursday, 18 April 2024 at 04:27
>>> *To: *Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>
>>> *Cc: *Marita Moll <marita.moll at gmail.com>, Melissa Allgood <
>>> melissa.allgood at icann.org>, ALAC Work <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [ALAC] At-Large Travel Fresh Start
>>>
>>> Hello Jonathan and everyone,
>>>
>>> Thank you for reigniting this useful discussion. Exploring metrics and
>>> incentives seems particularly relevant as the landscape of "young recruits"
>>> evolves, placing the At-Large community at the forefront of these changes.
>>>
>>> I am certain that my co-authors (included in the CC) would also be eager
>>> to revisit the discussion we initiated following our community's experience
>>> during the pandemic, particularly concerning volunteer support and
>>> contribution metrics. You can find our article on this topic here:
>>> https://circleid.com/posts/20220328-facing-the-future-of_icann_volunteer-recruitment
>>> with references to specific metrics deployed elsewhere.
>>>
>>> Additionally, Maureen initiated a dedicated communication with the Board
>>> on this issue around the same time, with the kind facilitation of Leon. I
>>> am certain we would all be glad to contribute to a meaningful discussion on
>>> enhancing support for our volunteer-based community and enhancing its
>>> outputs.
>>>
>>> Once again, thank you, Jonathan and team, for initiating this
>>> conversation.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Joanna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> śr., 17 kwi 2024 o 16:04 Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <
>>> alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org> napisał(a):
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you again for your feedback on the At-Large travel policy.  I want
>>> you to know that we have heard your concerns regarding the proposed
>>> At-Large travel policy and we want to keep discussing it with you. The need
>>> for an objective, utilitarian and flexible travel policy still exits to
>>> ensure that those actively engaged in ICANN work are in the best position
>>> to participate and we are actively planning for the future.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For ICANN80, we propose to revert to the allocation of 15 slots to the
>>> ALAC, 10 to the five RALOs and 3 for ALAC Liaisons and one for the ALAC
>>> Chair. Given that 3 ALAC members are unable to travel to Kigali, we would
>>> like to offer them to AFRALO to allocate as they wish. These 3 slots are
>>> unused ALAC slots so they are not drawn from expected slots.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For ICANN81, as this is the Annual General Meeting, we will also use the
>>> allocation which also supports the travel for outgoing, incoming, and
>>> continuing ALAC and Regional Leaders, according to their regional rotations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For the longer-term development of an At-Large travel policy, starting
>>> as early as May 2024, we suggest engaging in regional listening sessions
>>> where everyone has the opportunity to share their views and explain any
>>> concerns in a structured manner. Should you agree, we’ve asked Melissa
>>> Allgood, a member of ICANN org specializing in conflict resolution, to lead
>>> these discussions as a neutral facilitator. Melissa will not act as a
>>> representative of ICANN org, but rather will structure our dialogue to
>>> ensure that all participants are heard and their views considered. We will
>>> work with RALO leaders to include these listening sessions at a time that
>>> best meets the needs of each region, perhaps during scheduled monthly
>>> calls.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The development of a formal At-Large travel policy will take some time
>>> and we would like for all voices to be heard and considered. Ideally, we
>>> would like to work jointly with you - - in  eliminating subjective answers
>>> with agreed, objective metrics that meet well crafted expectations of
>>> volunteers in performing the role of the ALAC as tasked under the ICANN
>>> Bylaws.  Such a policy should be reflective of the values of the bottom-up
>>> multi-stakeholder model.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let us move forward in an inclusive, constructive, transparent, and
>>> respectful manner within our community.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan Zuck *|* Director, Future of Work Project *|*  Innovators
>>> Network
>>>
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