[ALAC] Meeting with Goran 22 September 16.00utc.

Fri Sep 18 18:59:47 UTC 2020

"travel is a perk" is a derogatory way of referring to the ALAC.
If I was to bill every hour that I spend volunteering for At-Large and
the days spent at ICANN meetings, I would have enough money in my pocket
to go to better places, better hotels and do better things than staying
in a windowless, frozen room for 10 hours a day. I don't do that because
a. I believe in making a difference and b. I enjoy the company of people
that have become friends
Kindest regards,

Olivier

On 18/09/2020 20:38, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
> Hi Alan 
>
> LOL. I should have put the "exotic places" comment in speech marks
> because that is the perception of many - that travel is a perk. And
> some take time before or after meetings to take advantage of the venue
> wherever it is. This could be considered a reward. I have done the
> same with colleagues myself thanks to ICANN. But for me the real bonus
> of attending an ICANN meeting has been the chance to spend any
> down-time with colleagues who have now become friends, wherever the
> meeting takes place.
>
> It has already been hinted that the pandemic has changed the way ICANN
> meetings will look in the future. How do we see it will be? 
>
> M
>
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 8:01 am Alan Greenberg, <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:
>
>     Maureen, please do not say things like "But what replaces our more
>     accustomed reward for effort - of attending an ICANN meeting in some
>     exotic place around the world?"!!
>
>     I am sure that for some, it is quite true that they volunteer for the
>     travel rewards, but it is NOT the case for many, and it reflects SO
>     BADLY on us.
>
>     I have been to MANY exotic places on ICANN's dime. only rarely have I
>     taken the time to experience them. And I have been to MANY places
>     that I had no interest in visiting. If every ICANN meeting were held
>     at a Los Angeles airport hotel, my attendance would not be different,
>     and I suspect that is the same for you.
>
>     So let's not encourage the concept that we consider travel a reward.
>
>     Alan
>
>
>     At 2020-09-17 09:02 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
>     >Hi everyone
>     >
>     >I noted that in the threads related to discussions with Goran (and
>     >wrt the ALAC-Board meeting at ICANN69) there were references made to
>     >matters that were raised in the Workload Survey so that I am bending
>     >towards using this interaction with Goran as an opportunity to
>     >address some of our workload issues related to ICANN meetings and
>     >our work with ICANN in general.
>     >
>     >I sent the Workload survey to Goran and others and soon after, had
>     >an opportunity to speak to it during our 1:1 discussion (as one of
>     >his normal SOAC Chair chats). He was sympathetic to the workload
>     >issues that were raised, and I asked whether perhaps ICANN should
>     >look at how they might appropriately recognise the work that is
>     >being done by some very active At-Large participants at their own
>     >cost - of precious down-time, energy, internet costs as well as the
>     >intellectual contribution they make on a weekly basis, all for the
>     >benefit of ICANN, with no expectation of compensation.
>     >
>     >Is it really acceptable in this day and age that people are expected
>     >to have such a high level of input into an important organisational
>     >output, for free? Especially in light of what many are also
>     >experiencing with regards to pandemic conditions and the impacts it
>     >is having on their daily lives? That volunteers across ICANN remain
>     >committed to this level of giving is really amazing. But what
>     >replaces our more accustomed reward for effort - of attending an
>     >ICANN meeting in some exotic place around the world? In the middle
>     >of a pandemic, do we have any answers?
>     >
>     >Another topical discussion also mentioned in the Workload survey,
>     >and which was also raised in our SOAC Chairs meeting this week, was
>     >the idea of regional meetings. Goran suggested that things may have
>     >to be different for the future of ICANN meetings. If you have any
>     >suggestions as alternatives, then I am sure that he would be happy
>     >to hear them. I am re-attaching the report in case you can't find
>     >it. The discussion should be interesting.
>     >
>     >Just to add, Leon will also be at the meeting, but he will be giving
>     >his usual update on Board activities. Maybe he will have further
>     >news on the Internet Grant.
>     >
>     >Comments welcome.
>     >Maureen
>     >Content-Type: application/pdf;
>     >         name="At Large Meeting Workload Survey results Aug
>     2020-2.pdf"
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>     2020-2.pdf"
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