[ALAC] ALS Mobilization WP Final Report

Nadira Alaraj nadira.araj at gmail.com
Mon Nov 23 15:43:49 UTC 2020


I also support both of these choices.


On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 at 4:57 PM Matthias M. Hudobnik <matthias at hudobnik.at>
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> My first choice is *"acts in the best interests"* and my second choice
> would be *“advances the interests of”*…!
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> Best,
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> Matthias
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> *Von:* ALAC [mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] *Im Auftrag von
> *Jonathan Zuck
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 23. November 2020 08:40
> *An:* Evan Leibovitch; Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
> *Cc:* ALAC; ALT-Plus
> *Betreff:* Re: [ALAC] ALS Mobilization WP Final Report
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> I’m in favor of getting as active a verb as we can manage without opening
> ourselves up to representational issues. I like “advances the interests of”
> for some such thing.
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> *From: *ALAC <alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Evan
> Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>
> *Date: *Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 9:54 PM
> *To: *Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
> *Cc: *ALAC <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, ALT-Plus <alt-plus at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [ALAC] ALS Mobilization WP Final Report
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> I agree with and support Olivier's comments.
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> Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada
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> @evanleibovitch / @el56
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> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 at 08:20, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
> wrote:
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> Hello all,
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> Indeed using "oversees" this could imply a matter of top down authority
> towards the community, which it does not have.
> In using "represents the interests", it goes further than "acts in the
> best interests", but it also opens the door to criticism that there are no
> procedures in place to ask every Internet user what they think, so it
> further exacerbates the issue of legitimacy. Thus I would support "acts in
> the best interests"
> Kindest regards,
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> Olivier
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> On 22/11/2020 14:17, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
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> Dear Tijani
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> Thank for first bringing this matter to our attention. It is an issue that
> Alan raised as one that should be dealt with before the report is accepted.
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> The two alternatives that I had originally been given as replacements for
> "oversee" were "advocate for" and "represent" ...
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> But I see that your recommendations also include "represents the interests
> of" and "is the voice of".
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>  I will ask staff create a poll for the ALAC to pose the alternatives to
> be considered for their selection. Thank you again for your suggestions.
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> Regards
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> Maureen
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> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020, 1:05 am Tijani BEN JEMAA, <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
> wrote:
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> Dear Maureen and all,
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> I would like to thank the ALS Mobilization Working Party for their work
> and for the quality of their final report.
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> I have a concern with the proposal for Bylaws change to replace "The
> At-Large Advisory Committee ("At-Large Advisory Committee" or "ALAC") is
> the primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet
> users » by ""The At-Large Advisory Committee ("At-Large Advisory
> Committee" or "ALAC") *oversees* the At-Large Community which is the
> primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet users. »
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> The ALAC doesn't oversee the At-Large Community. 2/3 of its members are
> appointed by this community (RALOs),  I propose to modify this bylaws
> change proposal by the following: "The At-Large Advisory Committee
> ("At-Large Advisory Committee" or "ALAC")* is the voice* *of *the
> At-Large Community which is the primary organizational home within ICANN
> for individual Internet users. » or "The At-Large Advisory Committee
> ("At-Large Advisory Committee" or "ALAC") *represents the interests of*
> the At-Large Community which is the primary organizational home within
> ICANN for individual Internet users. »
>
> The term « oversees » is not appropriate. It is as if you say the GNSO
> council oversees the NCSG or NCUC or NPOC or the BC or the IPC or the
> Registry …. communities. Any term that have the meaning of control or
> domination of the At-Large Community by ALAC  wouldn’t be acceptable.
> Otherwise, I can live with any other word.
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> Best
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