[ALAC] [CPWG] PIR and Dot Org

[Maureen Hilyard]

Excellent points Roberto.
Your experience on the PIR Board is invaluable in this regard. and your
recommendations noted.

Maureen

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:02 AM Roberto Gaetano <
mail.roberto.gaetano at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Maureen.
> I have been thinking further about this, and came to the conclusion that
> our proposal would be not to have a representative on the Stewardship
> Council but on the PIR Board.
> Here is the rationale for that.
> The Stewardship Council will play the role that was previously of the
> Advisory Council. Its purpose was to get multiple voices from different
> part of the user community, and in particular the NGOs, ensuring diversity
> of opinions. This body was advisory to a Board that had already built-in
> the fundamental non-profit, user-community DNA, because it was selected by
> ISOC.
> With the changed situation, we can safely assume that the new PIR Board
> will be selected by Ethos to take care of the interests of the investors,
> and there is no guarantee that the public interest is being taken care of.
> This will be a good option for Ethos as well, because it would show in a
> concrete way the commitment to the public interest beyond mere verbal
> expression of intents. On the other hand, Ethos and the investors would
> keep a solid majority that will ensure that their interests are protected.
> We should remember that while the Advisory Council was surely empowered to
> provide advice, and was surely listened to, a Director would have access to
> more information and definitively better opportunities to discuss different
> ideas and approaches with his/her fellow Directors, therefore presenting
> the point of view of the public interest more effectively.
> In short, this person wold play a role that is similar to the one that
> León plays in ICANN: committed to the fiduciary responsibility to the
> corporation but able to be a strong voice to the discussion.
> I think that we should not be shy, all in remaining reasonable with our
> proposals. I believe that this one is a win-win, bringing the voice of the
> user community in PIR and being a good opportunity for Ethos to show a
> commitment while still remaining in control of PIR.
> Cheers,
> Roberto
>
> PS: As I am not subscribed to the different mailing lists, please forward
> this if you see fit
>
>
> On 06.01.2020, at 01:40, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20200105_hilyard_has_a_historic_chance_to_activate_icann_at_large/
>
> Well that is certainly forcing our hand to take some action. But with
> arrows flying in all sorts of directions it has been difficult to know
> which one to follow, and I note there has been a break in the conversations
> on this topic.
>
> Interesting and very timely that Roberto raised the .org issue again in an
> earlier email today. I started a response until JZ reminded us that the
> thread was about .com
>
> I agree with Roberto's approach  - that we should focus on our role as the
> voice of At-Large end-users and offer some creative advice on how we might
> influence the behaviour of PIR and any future decisions they make that will
> impact on .org end-users. PIR/Ethos already presented a webinar and said
> all the right things.. but how can we be assured that they will stick to
> what they said that they would do in the future? Who will monitor this on
> behalf of ordinary end-users? Who will be represented on the Stewardship
> Council?
>
> At the same time we may also need to advise the ICANN Board about how they
> might deal with the ICANN-PIR/Ethos contract - especially Roberto's
> recommendation of some commitment from ICANN that ethical behaviour
> towards .org end-users will be built into it.
>
> We are aware that the Board is looking into every legal issue relating to
> how they can deal with matters that are being raised by letters that are
> flowing their way. We don't need to add more of the same.
>
> While i think it might be seen to be a simplistic approach, I believe that
> we should stick to what our job is and focus on advice to the Board and to
> PIR- but lets try to be creative about how we advise them, looking at the
> impacts on end-users from all perspectives.
>
> My 2c
> M
>
>
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