[ALAC] [ALAC-Announce] VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT: ALS Application (307) Internet Society Rural Development Special Interest Group

Maureen Hilyard maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
Wed Sep 18 03:53:01 UTC 2019


Hi Olivier

Maybe the rules need changing. Just because a group has members  from all
over the world, why should we stop them from becoming members of At-Large.

The group currently had a leadership team whose members are all resident in
the APRALO region. They are one of the few applications that I have seen
that actually mentioned the DNS. As an ISOC chapter focusing on rural
development, it probably has a majority of members from APRALO if all of
its leadership team is from the same region.

Since our current rules only note the primary and secondary members of an
ALS regardless of who is most active in our work in At-Large, when it comes
to who the other members are, no-one really bothers to ask. I would hazard
a guess that if we were to do an analysis  (and were to be so picky) we
would have several groups that have global  members.

*If we get active participants out of this ALS* we should count ourselves
lucky. That is the whole point of our ALS recruitment process.  And as part
of our Review we are finding that many of our processes need updating to
keep up with the changing needs of the environments we are having to deal
with.

EURALO itself has been faced with an anomaly which does not fit the rules,
but we have found LACRALO to be very obliging to cater for it. And as we
revise our ALS Criteria and Expectations we will have to include a new
"rule" that allows for  ALSes to participate in an event on a neighbouring
country that "does not belong to the region in which they are situated".
BIKLAB is now a precedent which will allow this to happen more within our
system as long as there is agreement between the regions concerned.

APRALO has many small island countries in the Pacific that have been unable
to participate in ICANN activities in their own right under our current
rules because they are territories of big power countries (mainly in
EURALO) who are given no support from their home region and would have no
idea what EURALO was. Pacific countries are an anomaly because as all the
22 countries and territories of the Pacific are members of the Pacific
Forum, they are therefore members of PICISOC, so in fact are members of an
ALS already -- so we have international participants in our membership,
even though they live in the Pacific.

Maureen

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, 3:14 PM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, <ocl at gih.com> wrote:

> Dear Maureen,
>
> I am very surprised to see this having reached the ALAC with a
> recommendation from APRALO that this should be accepted. This should have
> been picked up at Due Diligence: Internet Society Special Interest Groups
> are global as per the explanation on https://www.internetsociety.org/sigs
> This countervenes ALAC rules which specify that ALSes must be
> geographical. See tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-AdjDoc4-2013-07
>
> "2. Be organised so that participation by individual Internet users who
> are citizens or residents of countries within the Geographic Region in
> which the ALS is based will predominate in the ALS' operation. The ALS may
> permit additional participation by others that is compatible with the
> interests of the individual Internet users within the region."
>
> The key words are "be organised" - and as much as I support the work of
> the Internet Society Rurel Special Interest Group, rural areas are not
> limited to Asia. Unless there is a commitment that this SIG will restrict
> the majority of its membership to come from the Asia region. The explicit
> response of the SIG in due diligence was "this is a global SIG".
>
> I also have a concern that it would be possible to create one SIG after
> another in ISOC and the meaning of ALS no longer applies as you are
> effectively creating votes.
>
> The question of "geographical" was asked on the APRALO mailing list as
> recently as 11 September 2019 (
> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/apac-discuss/2019-September/004952.html
> ) but I do not see any response to this.
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> On 18/09/2019 01:58, ICANN At-Large Staff wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> The regional advice from APRALO regarding the ALS Application (307)
> Internet Society Rural Development Special Interest Group has been received.
>
>
>
> The following question has been posed to the ALAC:
>
>
>
> *****
>
> Question: Does the ALAC wish to accredit the (307) Internet Society Rural
> Development Special Interest Group? The regional advice was to accept the
> application.
>
> *****
>
>
>
> Please note that this vote will close on Tuesday, 24 September 2019 23:59
> UTC.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
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