[ALAC] SHORT Consensus Call: Fellowship Selection Criteria

Wed Sep 12 12:43:12 UTC 2018

I may want to start at  70 because I may have the energy, desire,
experience, knowledge and time to do this type of volunteer work. After all
it is more mental than physical.

-ed

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 5:40 AM Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
wrote:

> Seun,
>
> The upper age limit is there because the fellowship should benefit to
> people who may become ICANN leaders while if you start being fellow at 70,
> when you will become leader?
> But I would be fine if the majority want no upper limit.
>
> As for having 2 sets of requirements for the skill (one for meetings A & C
> and one for meeting B), I agree
>
>
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> *Tijani BEN JEMAA*
> Executive Director
> Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)
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> Le 11 sept. 2018 à 10:00, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> I agree with Tijani's comments but with caveats on 2 points:
>
> Age: Am fine with the lower band limit since there is nextgen hence
> younger ones should use that but I personally don't see a need for upper
> band limit.
>
> Skills: I agree with the comments but I think experience in ICANN
> processes should still be maintained for B meeting. I do think that having
> 2 sets of requirement for the meetings will be better. One that is less
> strong on ICANN participation for meetings A and C and then another for
> meetings B which is more focused on prior participation/understanding of
> ICANN processes
>
> Regards
> Sent from my mobile
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
> On Fri, 7 Sep 2018, 12:08 Tijani BEN JEMAA, <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I would like to thank the outreach and engagement sub-committee for
>> providing this good draft.
>> Nevertheless, I have concerns in the following categories of diversity:
>> Region, Age, Skills and other diversity category:
>>
>>    - *Region:* As it is written here, we may have the whole selected
>>    fellows from the global north (people with sufficient wealth to come to
>>    ICANN meetings on their own expenses). My proposal is « Underserved regions
>>    and global underserved communities ».
>>    - *Age:* I agree with Sarah and Ricardo that limiting the age to 40
>>    years is to avoid. I propose in stead « 24 - 55 years)
>>    - *Skills:* Someone skilled in ICANN policy development with ability
>>    to analyse data from an Internet end user perspective, as well as knowledge
>>    and technical experience of/with the Internet eco-system won’t have any
>>    need to be fellow. He/she is already expert. The original objective of the
>>    fellowship program is to bring people who need the fellowship to be able to
>>    attend an ICANN meeting, and the whole fellowship program for fellows
>>    during the meeting is more or less capacity building. So experts wouldn’t
>>    need the program and doesn’t give ICANN any added value. I propose: «
>>    sufficient educational background to understand the ICANN environment, good
>>    understanding of the English language, Interest in Internet in general,
>>    Interest in participating in the ICANN work ».
>>    - *Other diversity category:* Civil Society, Internet end-users,
>>    global indigenous people are kind of stakeholders. They should be placed in
>>    the section « Stakeholders groups and constituencies. I don’t think we
>>    should target persons because they are victims of harassment or conflicts.
>>    Exclusion and extreme poverty fall under the region category when it is
>>    defined as « Underserved regions and global underserved communities ».
>>
>>
>> As a general remark, I don’t think we were asked to give our own interest
>> only. I think we should give the best target for the whole ICANN.
>>
>>
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>> *Tijani BEN JEMAA*
>> Executive Director
>> Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)
>> Phone: +216 98 330 114 <+216%2098%20330%20114>
>>             +216 52 385 114 <+216%2052%20385%20114>
>>
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>> Le 7 sept. 2018 à 08:01, Ricardo Holmquist <rihogris at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> Hi,
>> same question of Sarah. I was one of the fellows over 40 years, as well
>> as Alfredo Calderon, and several others.
>>
>> IMHO, people over this range of age have more time to engage in this kind
>> of tasks, unless they are also engaged in any part of the community as
>> workers. I mean, if you work for a RIR, any Internet association, a
>> University Professor, a Govermental employee in a Internet Governance
>> office, a Law firm interested in IP, or a Registry or Registrar, part of
>> your job will be ICANN. Your boss will now who is ICANN, and most times
>> will be happy you are there.
>>
>> If you are a volunteer in ISOC  or at any other Internet related
>> association, or an Individual member, you should have a regular job. Under
>> 40 years you are in your most productive time, usually with kids in their
>> scholar process. Taking 7-10 days to assist to a meeting, and if engaged,
>> time to do so, doesn´t sound feasible.
>>
>> For the At-Large community, most of its dedicated members came from the
>> second, not from the first. You can check ALAC, very few exceptions are
>> under 40. This age top, will affect us mostly.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Ricardo Holmquist
>>
>> 2018-09-07 6:25 GMT+02:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Thank you Alan for sending this document.
>>>
>>> I have a question regarding the age that has specified in the attached
>>> document. The fellowship requirement is for applicants to be above 21 years
>>> of age but there is no maximum age mentioned. Is there a reason why this
>>> document states 24 - 40 years?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Sarah
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 00:01 Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Along with the need to select a Fellowship Selection Committee Member
>>>> representing the ALAC, we have been asked to make suggestions on the
>>>> criteria for selection and places to publicize the program.
>>>>
>>>> The SC on Outreach and Engagement was given the task of working on the
>>>> latter document. the result (with a minor change to include regional IGF
>>>> meetings) is attached.
>>>>
>>>> *With this message, I am initiating a SHORT Consensus Call of the ALAC *to
>>>> ratify the criteria document.
>>>>
>>>> This Consensus Call will end at 23:59 UTC on Sunday, 9 September 2018.
>>>>
>>>> If there are any questions of comments, please direct them to either
>>>> this list or to me directly.
>>>>
>>>> Although messages indicating support are welcome, they are not
>>>> necessary. This Consensus Call will be deemed to have succeeded in the
>>>> absence of significant opposition (greater than 20% as specified by ALAC
>>>> RoP 12.3.3.1).
>>>>
>>>> Alan
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